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anonymous August 21 2012, 08:16:09 UTC
I find her incredibly hard to talk to. And I say this for two main reasons:

At the beginning of every conversation, she is either tired, bored, or hungry. Never anything else. Not once. After a while, it feels like she only talks to people when she's "bored" because she has nothing better to do, and she isn't actually interested in THEM. She just wants something to do. If she had something else to do, then she wouldn't talk to us, which makes me want to say 'go sleep' or 'go get a hobby then'.

The second thing is that in the times we have talked to her, she has literally never been able to hold a conversation without mentioning her boyfriend, an ex-boyfriend, her sex life/relationship history, or men in some romantic way. It doesn't matter what the topic is, she always finds a way to slip it in there. "I went to see X movie today" "Oh I wanted to see that with my boyfriend". "I like baseball" "Yeah I like watching men's butts in uniforms", etc. Always. It makes her seem needy and incredibly relationship-oriented. I feel like she couldn't exist if she didn't have some relationship or relationship drama going on. And although I can't speak for other muses, I do not care. Even if our muses were BFF, they wouldn't care enough to hear about it every single time they converse.

Between those two things, it makes me never want to talk to her, because the conversation starts and ends up at the same places every single time. So I would suggest you broaden your field of conversational topics. She's not a bad muse, but I feel like you have to either date her or entertain her to matter.

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sosohyorish August 21 2012, 09:22:24 UTC
I'm really, really sorry she comes across that way. Since you're anon I really can't guess at who you are or reference specific instances.

If she made your muse feel as though she only wanted entertainment from them when she's bored, I'm sorry. I think perhaps there might be something getting lost in communication though.. she sees those 'bored' opportunities as chances to make new friends, and will often try poking random people to see if she can strike up conversations. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. She wouldn't be messaging people though if she didn't genuinely want to talk to them though, so I'm sorry if it comes across like she's uninterested.

As for the second thing, again I'm sorry. It's been a habit that I've noticed forming, and usually by the time I catch it, something has already been said. She's been through a bit of a mess lately, so I think that's why it became more prevalent. In all honesty, she has a hard time really connecting with people, and I think she has a tendency to do that as a buffer, if that makes sense? It's not right, I agree, but there's a reason behind it. She's usually not quite so bad, and recently she's been calming down a good bit, so again I'm sorry if she caught your muse in one of her own mood swings.

Since you're anon but you said you never want to talk to her... I'm at a loss. I don't want her to be a pest, but without knowing who not to IM anymore, I don't know what to say. I only hope that if she messages in the future they will be able to establish a better connection.

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anonymous August 22 2012, 01:48:37 UTC
Not the original poster, but I agree on the part about how she always finds a way to mention her boyfriend and things about him that only roughly relate to the topic at hand. Personally, for me, it wasn't just the one time when it seemed like she might be in a mood which makes it difficult to connect to new people, as it occurred with not only one, but two of my muses in different homes in the past. It also, for me!!!, makes me want to not continue feeding the conversation with my talkative muses because I'd be paranoid that she'd find a way to relate it to her boyfriend; however, my muses simply frowned in confusion and shrugged it off when it happened in the beginning. After a while, it almost makes them borderline desperate to find something requiring them to leave, or even ask her boyfriend-oriented questions to see if that'd lessen the chance for a repeat mention later in the conversation. They both will continue to talk to her, though, and hope it doesn't occur as much. Simply adding this because it appears to be character-behavior rather than mood-behavior so that you might pay more attention to how frequently it happens, regardless of what's happened or how she feels.

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anonymous August 22 2012, 02:33:53 UTC
DA... I don't understand the issue with people mentioning their significant others in general? It's never occurred to me that it would be somehow not okay, since IRL everyone I know who's married, engaged, in a long term relationship, they all mention their SOs very regularly as a natural part of conversation. (Similarly, I don't understand the problem with teenaged/early 20s muses talking about sex and dating and hot guys/girls all the time because from when I was in middle school all the way through college, that's what... everyone seemed to talk about the most... returning to it over and over, and it wasn't anything remarkable? Humans tend to be obsessed with sex, and especially at that age, so how would muses be any different?)

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anonymous August 22 2012, 04:00:42 UTC
It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't CONSTANT. Like every once in a while is fine, or even regularly mentioning them, but it's gotten to the point where it's like "HEY DID YOU KNOW I HAVE A BOYFRIEND? GUESS WHAT I HAVE A BOYFRIEND, YOU SHOULD REALLY CARE THAT I HAVE A BOYFRIEND MY WHOLE LIFE REVOLVES AROUND HAVING A BOYFRIEND". I know very few people who can't go a single conversation without mentioning their SO. It's really annoying because honestly, nobody cares. Maybe if you're really close, but otherwise, it just comes off as needy and off-putting.

Maybe you ran with a sex-obsessed crowd, but I never had a problem talking about other things. And I don't with other muses who are in relationships. It may come up occasionally, but it's not a constant thing. Not even considering that idols are conditioned to be more discreet about that kind of thing. It's not inherently bad, it's just annoying. And back to the point, Hyori doesn't seem to be that kind of person to me anyway, constantly obsessing and oversharing. Maybe I just don't know her real well enough, and I can only speak for myself, but that was just the impression I got from talking with her quite often, so it was the feedback I gave.

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