Unanswered Questions, Part 12...
The cockerel on a pillar is hard to find. What does it mean? I found a couple things that might relate to it.
History of Weathervanes:The popularity of weathervanes exploded when a papal edict from the 9th century A.D. help bring the weathervane to the skies of most of Europe. Rome declared that every church in Christendom must be adorned by a cockerel, a symbol to remind Christians of Peter’s betrayal of Christ: "I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me." (Luke 22:34)
While these cockerels were at first not intended as weathervanes, they were eventually combined with the weathervanes that already dotted many church steeples to create the familiar rooster-shaped weathervane common today. This is probably due to the fact that the cockerels atop church steeples were easily visible from anywhere in town, and so were a logical choice to become communal weathervanes.
Cochrane says that that Christianity comes out of the masculine mysteries, so the cockerel on a weathervane, and earlier a cockerel on the churches, which comes from the denial of Peter, should be this same symbol. So, what does it represent here? Betrayal. But Peter didn't betray Christ, he denied him. He showed cowardice and he lied. The opposites of Bravery and Truthfulness. So, if the cockerel on the churches was a reminder of what Peter did, maybe the cockerel on the pillar is a reminder of another story of cowardice and lies, to remind those that know the story to show Bravery and Truthfulness.
The other thing I found it an image.
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Mexican Cross - 17th Century : Reproduced from a 17th century crucifix from Mexico, this cross includes the conventional symbols of the Passion-nails, crown of thorns, pillar and scourge, ladder and lance, the cockerel that crowed three times.
It is interesting that it contains a pillar, a cockerel, a scourge, a ladder, and a lance. It also contains a sun, a cup, and a sword. I can't tell what else.
Sixth Letter:I have enclosed a leaf out of a book which has the photograph of a French Menhir upon it - I helped the woman who wrote this book, and explained something of the menhir to her - but she is a fool, and her book is a shame to read since it is only interested in the sensational, and not in wisdom. However, the menhir contains all 'Witch' theology and belief - and if it is studied, it will answer many questions for you. The carvings date from the 17th century, the menhir is at least 2,000 years old. Archeologists believe it to be a depiction of the Passion of Christ, which shows how little they know. You will see upon it both male and female mysteries - with the bottom line reading as the third part - that of the Priest/Magician. Understand it, and you will have the basic groundwork of the Faith. Ask me questions about it, and I will explain them to the best of my ability.
We see very similar symbols on the Menhir Cochrane talks about.
Passion (Christianity) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
The instruments of the Passion. Left to right: the cross of Dismas, ladder, sponge on reed, hammer, angels, Cross of Christ, cock, star, pincers, ladder, spear, cross of the wicked thief (église Saint-Pierre de Collonges-la-rouge).
Passion (Christianity) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
The instruments of the Passion (cont). Left to right: chalice, torch, lantern, sword, flagellum, pillar of flagellation, Veronica's veil, 30 pieces of silver, [unknown], reed sceptre, hand which struck Christ, torch, pitcher of gall and vinegar.
So, we see all the same symbols here. It is interesting that the besom (said to be a torch) appears to be there, and the glove (said to be a hand). In fact, all the symbols on the Menhir are also here, except for the sun and moon.
So, if we assume that cockerel is the symbol talked about above, why is it on a pillar? And why is the pillar mentioned as one of the conventional symbols of the passion of Christ?
Passion (Christianity) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:The pillar
By tradition, Jesus was tethered to a pillar while flogged.
Passion of Christ Allusions, Definition, Citation, Reference, Information - Allusion to Passion of Christ:pillar and cord depicted Christ’s scourging. [Christian Symbolism: Appleton, 76]
So, the pillar and the scourge are tied together, at least in the Christian version. Christ was tied to the pillar, then scourged. I'll look at the scourging later. One of the main stories that was discussed by Graves in the White Goddess, and that is alluded to in Green Grow the Rushes, which Cochrane says shows what he believes, is the sacrificial king. The king had to be sacrificed to help the people. This very much is reflected in the story of Christ. The king is brought low, being tied to a pillar and beaten. None of his followers help him. He is killed, but rises again as king. In the general story, the Holly King is sacrificed and replaced by the Oak King, who in turn is killed by the Holly King reborn. We also see Sampson between two pillars, bringing down the temple after the one he loved betrayed him, saving his people, who are no where near him. We see Odin hanging upside down on the World Tree to get the runes. We see Osiris on the Pillar of Djed. So, the cross Christ died on could be seen as the same as these other pillars, so not just did he suffer on a pillar, he was sacrificed on a pillar. So I think the cockerel on the pillar is symbolic of the followers abandoning the sacrificial king when he is sacrificed, not just when he suffers. The Cockerel on a Pillar is the king being sacrificed alone, abandoned by all others. It is his Bravery and Truthfulness, which his followers lacked.
~Muninn's Kiss
History of Weathervanes:The popularity of weathervanes exploded when a papal edict from the 9th century A.D. help bring the weathervane to the skies of most of Europe. Rome declared that every church in Christendom must be adorned by a cockerel, a symbol to remind Christians of Peter’s betrayal of Christ: "I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me." (Luke 22:34)
While these cockerels were at first not intended as weathervanes, they were eventually combined with the weathervanes that already dotted many church steeples to create the familiar rooster-shaped weathervane common today. This is probably due to the fact that the cockerels atop church steeples were easily visible from anywhere in town, and so were a logical choice to become communal weathervanes.
Cochrane says that that Christianity comes out of the masculine mysteries, so the cockerel on a weathervane, and earlier a cockerel on the churches, which comes from the denial of Peter, should be this same symbol. So, what does it represent here? Betrayal. But Peter didn't betray Christ, he denied him. He showed cowardice and he lied. The opposites of Bravery and Truthfulness. So, if the cockerel on the churches was a reminder of what Peter did, maybe the cockerel on the pillar is a reminder of another story of cowardice and lies, to remind those that know the story to show Bravery and Truthfulness.
The other thing I found it an image.
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Mexican Cross - 17th Century : Reproduced from a 17th century crucifix from Mexico, this cross includes the conventional symbols of the Passion-nails, crown of thorns, pillar and scourge, ladder and lance, the cockerel that crowed three times.
It is interesting that it contains a pillar, a cockerel, a scourge, a ladder, and a lance. It also contains a sun, a cup, and a sword. I can't tell what else.
Sixth Letter:I have enclosed a leaf out of a book which has the photograph of a French Menhir upon it - I helped the woman who wrote this book, and explained something of the menhir to her - but she is a fool, and her book is a shame to read since it is only interested in the sensational, and not in wisdom. However, the menhir contains all 'Witch' theology and belief - and if it is studied, it will answer many questions for you. The carvings date from the 17th century, the menhir is at least 2,000 years old. Archeologists believe it to be a depiction of the Passion of Christ, which shows how little they know. You will see upon it both male and female mysteries - with the bottom line reading as the third part - that of the Priest/Magician. Understand it, and you will have the basic groundwork of the Faith. Ask me questions about it, and I will explain them to the best of my ability.
We see very similar symbols on the Menhir Cochrane talks about.
Passion (Christianity) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
The instruments of the Passion. Left to right: the cross of Dismas, ladder, sponge on reed, hammer, angels, Cross of Christ, cock, star, pincers, ladder, spear, cross of the wicked thief (église Saint-Pierre de Collonges-la-rouge).
Passion (Christianity) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
The instruments of the Passion (cont). Left to right: chalice, torch, lantern, sword, flagellum, pillar of flagellation, Veronica's veil, 30 pieces of silver, [unknown], reed sceptre, hand which struck Christ, torch, pitcher of gall and vinegar.
So, we see all the same symbols here. It is interesting that the besom (said to be a torch) appears to be there, and the glove (said to be a hand). In fact, all the symbols on the Menhir are also here, except for the sun and moon.
So, if we assume that cockerel is the symbol talked about above, why is it on a pillar? And why is the pillar mentioned as one of the conventional symbols of the passion of Christ?
Passion (Christianity) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:The pillar
By tradition, Jesus was tethered to a pillar while flogged.
Passion of Christ Allusions, Definition, Citation, Reference, Information - Allusion to Passion of Christ:pillar and cord depicted Christ’s scourging. [Christian Symbolism: Appleton, 76]
So, the pillar and the scourge are tied together, at least in the Christian version. Christ was tied to the pillar, then scourged. I'll look at the scourging later. One of the main stories that was discussed by Graves in the White Goddess, and that is alluded to in Green Grow the Rushes, which Cochrane says shows what he believes, is the sacrificial king. The king had to be sacrificed to help the people. This very much is reflected in the story of Christ. The king is brought low, being tied to a pillar and beaten. None of his followers help him. He is killed, but rises again as king. In the general story, the Holly King is sacrificed and replaced by the Oak King, who in turn is killed by the Holly King reborn. We also see Sampson between two pillars, bringing down the temple after the one he loved betrayed him, saving his people, who are no where near him. We see Odin hanging upside down on the World Tree to get the runes. We see Osiris on the Pillar of Djed. So, the cross Christ died on could be seen as the same as these other pillars, so not just did he suffer on a pillar, he was sacrificed on a pillar. So I think the cockerel on the pillar is symbolic of the followers abandoning the sacrificial king when he is sacrificed, not just when he suffers. The Cockerel on a Pillar is the king being sacrificed alone, abandoned by all others. It is his Bravery and Truthfulness, which his followers lacked.
~Muninn's Kiss