The Curtain Falls on MsScribe (and other randomosities)

[mudblood428]

Firstly, I just found out that my big fic, After the Die is Cast is now a featured story at Mugglenet Fanfiction! *squee* It definitely brightened my day to see that - check it out on the left task bar if you're curious and don't mind that the first two chapters are *cough*rubbish*cough*. Yay

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[peachespig]

None of us can run from the karmic boomerang; it's only a matter of when it'll strike.

I guess I have less faith in karma - I think sometimes people do things that are wrong and still really, genuinely get away with it, without consequences. Sad as it may seem. Which makes it all the more gratifying to me when they don't. Like this time.

At the risk of sounding arrogant, I think the fandom can learn a bit from the fanart community.You know, I've noticed this. I've noticed it and I've thought about it - how people will comment to you "Oh, I usually hate H/G but this is so beautiful" or something like that. How people are willing to see something in someone else's ship when it's represented in art, when the same people won't do it in other situations

[mudblood428]

I can come up with two reasons for it. First of all, what you and other artists do is beautiful - so people can look at it and say "Wow" even if they didn't feel anything for the pairing before. Whereas I can type "Isn't it great how Harry and Ginny do this and this and this" and people who already agree will agree, but people who don't won't feel anything, because they don't have the compelling power of the pretty pulling at them.

But secondly, I think art is much less threatening somehow. If I say to someone "H/G is the way it's supposed to be" then maybe I'm challenging their beliefs, I'm telling them they're wrong, and they don't like it, and we argue. But a picture doesn't make those demands - it's not threatening in the same way. It doesn't say you're wrong. A work of art engages a different part of the brain and a different part of the ego somehow, and it's much easier to appreciate that even if it goes against your preferences. In that way, you guys are quite lucky.

Those are very astute observations, Oliver. Picture and

[peachespig]

I wonder where all the paranoia began, and whether MsScribe was indeed the start of it all....

I think she preyed on it and made it worse but didn't start it. It really goes all the way back to the Harry Potter for Grown-Ups mailing list in 2000-2001, when the founders of SQ and FA met and started arguing over ships and grew to dislike each other before creating their separate web sites. And of course Cassie Claire's stalker. Msscribe was opportunistic - she could see, I suppose, that the siutation was ripe for becoming even worse.

I'm sorry that you had to go through the Halloween thing as your baptism into fandom. In a way that was a collision between a more old-fashioned attitude - Fiction Alley's "every ship is equally special" maxim that made a lot more sense in 2001 - and the straightforward "modern" expectations of people who wanted to just acknowledge the canon of all six books.

[mudblood428]

Goodness gracious. I'd've jumped ship altogether, no pun intended, if I was on that mailing list. But it makes sense. It probably would have been only a matter of time before someone else did/said something awful to start an all-out shipping brawl. *headdesk*

As to the Halloween thing, I actually look back on it as a positive thing. You guys came to my defense before I even knew what Star22 had said and through it I had the wonderful fortune of meeting the people on FAP_orangetrees. :) Plus, it sort of woke me up to the craziness - I hadn't experienced the ship divide before then and I think it prompted me to be a lot more careful about who got access to my artwork. (In case you hadn't heard, I'm auctioning off the original Halloween artwork to raise money for cancer. Here's hoping a little bit of the wank attached to it can benefit a good cause!)

[atlanta06]

I'm on...Ch. 9,I think,of TMS and I can I just say--"Holy crap,did her psyche get so damaged from not feeling "awesome" enough in high school or something? Sweet yachting Christ on Lake Erie,woman! If I had the time management skills that you had just to make yourself e-popular,I could graduate high school,college and make a million bucks!" o_O

I came to HP fandom in May of 2004 and didn't really interact in the online fandom until maybe November of that year,so I'm hardly as invested as some of the people who got burned. My sympathies.

Does anyone else see weird similarities between this event and the events in the book? Or is it just me and the light glaring on my monitor?

*goes to bed*

[mudblood428]

Sweet yachting Christ on Lake Erie,woman!

ROFL!! You're quite right. Her right mind is orbiting somewhere around Saturn, I bet. For my part, I wasn't involved (thank god), but I've become friends with a few who were, and I'm stunned to read what happened to them.

As to the similarity of events, Oh heck yes! How's about the Luis Movello/Tom Marvolo/Lucius Malfoy connection? *headdesk*

[atlanta06]

GT is totally Slytherin House,isolating itself from the whole of the fandom because of their beliefs and resigning themselves to being called The Dark Side. The BNFs are totally self-righteous Ministry members pursuing what they think is evil with a superiorty complex to rival the Purebloods. charlottelennox and the Fandom Wank members who helped provide information in the TMS are like Unspeakables or the Order or something. Vigilante justice and all.

[lunalovepotter]

Making the relationships of fictional characters a cause for vitriol and animosity has been and always will be utterly nuts to me. I thought we were all in this for the same reason: we all like Harry Potter.

Yes, yes, YES. I feel exactly the same way. The shipping wars and all that seems so mind-boggling, simply because it takes away from the purpose of being in the fandom in the first place: Harry Potter. I enjoy my ships, but they do not determine the course of my life.

The only thing I might say in response is that perhaps apologies is all we can expect while the gun is still smoking. It's not easy to admit involvement in something so horrendous let alone ask for forgiveness.

Well I think it's good that those directly involved are coming forward and making apologies; it can't take back what happened, but it's certainly a step in the right direction. But what I also take into account is that these people believed msscribe was their friend, so it was hard for them to accept that she could be capable of these awful things. That's not to

[mudblood428]

Unfortunately, the person we should be asking - or demanding - an apology from will not be giving one anytime soon, because (inexplicably) she doesn't believe she did anything wrong.

Honest to goodness, I haven't a clue how she can walk away from this with a clear conscience. It bothers me something fierce that she won't own up to something that would very well give her "friends" a bit of closure - especially considering how eagerly her friends came to her defense! I'm just staggered at the rampant heartlessness of that woman. Just... UGH.

[hp5freak]

I started reading this and was so disgusted just getting to the flame wars and the initial meeting of the major players involved that I haven't continued. Perhaps I should give it another try....this weekend...when I'm not working....

[mudblood428]

Make sure you start on an empty stomach. It's thoroughly sickening and becomes increasingly so the further on you read. Many began the story for amusement and finished feeling like they'd been beaten roughly about the head.

Re: new friend

[mudblood428]

Hi, Margaret! So glad you popped in to say hi - it's certainly a lighthearted break from the dark angst that TMS has produced. Thank you for your compliments - I'd love to see some of your work (especially if you've written H/G! *squee*) :D

I've friended you back :)

Re: new friend

[mudblood428]

Thanks so much for the link! I'm sure I will :D