I READ IT ALL!lynzie914August 18 2010, 03:52:53 UTC
This is amazing! First that you took the time to rewatch and write out all these awesome scenes and delve into their relationship so wonderfully and realistically. So much of it was like you had read my mind at some point, but there was a lot I never even thought of and I'm very happy to have pointed out to me. I loved your description of their suspicions of each other in Pandora and Disciple. Those were two things that always bugged me because while I knew they weren't at a level of complete absolute trust, I thought that they would have trusted each other more then that. But the way you explained it, it makes a lot more sense to me.
I also loved the comparisons you drew because that's one of the things that I do love about Chlollie, is that you can trace things that happened in there lives and see how it lead them to each other and how they relate to each other. I had never even realized that Moria's leaving and Oliver's parents dying both happened at the same age for them. And when you really think about it, that's when both of their trust issues started. The day they realized sometimes people leave and they never come back.
I also liked that you delved into the darker side of their relationship (Chloe killing Sebastian, Oliver killing Lex, Chloe hiding Davis, Chloe stealing the money). I love the fluffy Chlolle that we've gotten, I love the friendship, and the partnership they have. But like you said, I love that long before romance ever came into play, they knew each otehrs darkest and biggest secrets. I think that says something big about the both of them. It wasn't Clark or Lois or Jimmy or anyone else that knew these things. It was just the two of them. And I agree, I think that's why Oliver reacted the way he did in Beast and Conspiracy when he realized what Chloe was doing in secret. Because he felt betrayed, because he thought there was a trust there and it made him question if it was one sided.
I also loved your interpretations of S6 Chlollie, because as a person who did see them as an awesome potential couple back then, its nice to see proof that shows, I'm not just reading into things because its what I want to see. For me one of the biggest things was what you started with. Them both wanting to shorten his superhero name down to Green Arrow, which does happen. It was one of those small things, that just showed that they were intuned without them having even met at that point.
And yeah....I just rambled a lot, and I hope you don't mind. XD
Re: I READ IT ALL!msedopportunityAugust 18 2010, 16:10:24 UTC
Happy to give you a new pov. When I watch something and I don't like it, I rewatch it to try to understand it better, and this is one of those times where it made more sense. In fact, if I watch something and I don't like it, and it doesn't ring true, then I really try to look for the why. I don't like my characters OOC. Sometimes there is just know sense to be found, but sometimes there is.
I didn't realize that Oliver and Chloe lost parents at the age of five until I was watching the Clark/Oliver scene from Echo. I have the Chlark scene from Legacy practically memorized, because it's such an important (and very sad) view from Chloe. She has that embedded fear, no only that people leave but that she's not good enough to love. When I heard Oliver say 'five' I was like OMG! Same as Chloe!
Chloe never really confided in Jimmy, that we saw. I can name one time where she really opened up to him (Gemini) In Season 6 she's dating Jimmy. She barely has scenes with Oliver, yet he knows more about the kind of person Chloe is and what she's been through, than Jimmy ever did. That was only season six.
I don't mind the rambling lol. I'm a rambler too. Ramble all you want. I enjoy reading your thoughts.
I also loved the comparisons you drew because that's one of the things that I do love about Chlollie, is that you can trace things that happened in there lives and see how it lead them to each other and how they relate to each other. I had never even realized that Moria's leaving and Oliver's parents dying both happened at the same age for them. And when you really think about it, that's when both of their trust issues started. The day they realized sometimes people leave and they never come back.
I also liked that you delved into the darker side of their relationship (Chloe killing Sebastian, Oliver killing Lex, Chloe hiding Davis, Chloe stealing the money). I love the fluffy Chlolle that we've gotten, I love the friendship, and the partnership they have. But like you said, I love that long before romance ever came into play, they knew each otehrs darkest and biggest secrets. I think that says something big about the both of them. It wasn't Clark or Lois or Jimmy or anyone else that knew these things. It was just the two of them. And I agree, I think that's why Oliver reacted the way he did in Beast and Conspiracy when he realized what Chloe was doing in secret. Because he felt betrayed, because he thought there was a trust there and it made him question if it was one sided.
I also loved your interpretations of S6 Chlollie, because as a person who did see them as an awesome potential couple back then, its nice to see proof that shows, I'm not just reading into things because its what I want to see. For me one of the biggest things was what you started with. Them both wanting to shorten his superhero name down to Green Arrow, which does happen. It was one of those small things, that just showed that they were intuned without them having even met at that point.
And yeah....I just rambled a lot, and I hope you don't mind. XD
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I didn't realize that Oliver and Chloe lost parents at the age of five until I was watching the Clark/Oliver scene from Echo. I have the Chlark scene from Legacy practically memorized, because it's such an important (and very sad) view from Chloe. She has that embedded fear, no only that people leave but that she's not good enough to love. When I heard Oliver say 'five' I was like OMG! Same as Chloe!
Chloe never really confided in Jimmy, that we saw. I can name one time where she really opened up to him (Gemini) In Season 6 she's dating Jimmy. She barely has scenes with Oliver, yet he knows more about the kind of person Chloe is and what she's been through, than Jimmy ever did. That was only season six.
I don't mind the rambling lol. I'm a rambler too. Ramble all you want. I enjoy reading your thoughts.
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