Don't Go See Transformers.

[mr_jaeger]

As a personal favor to me, I would kindly make a request of everybody from my livejournal or myspace friends groups who posted or emailed to tell me that the Transformers movie is awesome. Please form a line to the left to claim a special, personalized once-in-a-lifetime offer, courtesy of your old pal, that Electric Bastard, Jaeger S. Meistersen

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[protoclown]

Well, my error on the writers then. I'm at work now so I can't double check the IMDB (it's blocked), but I would swear to you that around 2:00am last night, there were five different writers listed, at least seven of which had wacky foreign names. I blame insomnia and general tiredness on that little hallucination, but if I was wrong, I was wrong, and I'll cede that point.

The reason I brought up the writer quip is because you told me that my opinion was basically invalid because I hadn't done enough "research" to satisfy you, apparently, when in fact I had been following news of the movie for some time and had read several interviews with the two writers of the screenplay. Those interviews created expectations within me (however low) that were simply not met. Now perhaps it wasn't their fault, shit that's in the script gets cut by the director and editor all the time and either doesn't get filmed or ends up on the cutting room floor, but either way, I didn't like the final product.

I threw out that quip about how debating works because you seemed awfully offended that I was actually bothering to try to explain myself, especially after you more or less showed up and told me my opinion didn't count because I must "lack skills in observation" simply because I disagreed with you about the quality of the characters. You were basically telling me my opinion clearly had to be wrong, because for me to feel the way I did, I must have missed something. You made a LOT of assumptions, that I wasn't paying attention (rather, I couldn't follow what the hell was going on and who was who in the fights), or that I had stolen my opinions and observations from reviews I had read, which is frankly a little insulting.

If I'd seen the movie the same way you did, I'm sure we would agree, but I could only see it through my own eyes, and I hated it for my own reasons, which I have explained. We're discussing opinions here anyway, so it's not like either of us can be right or wrong.

[iceypyro]

I'm an insomniac myself, and yes, after a few days hallucinations can occur, so that's quite a possibility.

I may have assumed a bit, which granted, is a bad thing to do, but I didn't assume everything, you yourself said you weren't looking at the screen, then looked up and all of a sudden Jazz was split in two.

"because you seemed awfully offended that I was actually bothering to try to explain myself" You yourself assume as well, and whether it came off as that, I'm never one to down someone else for expressing your opinion. I was trying to state, that it was my opinion that you shouldn't blame Michael Bay for the story when you brought up that thought, and rather you should find out who wrote said story.

[protoclown]

I didn't mean to make it sound as if I was looking away from the screen during the Jazz bit. I meant that I was "looking up" in the sense of looking at the screen, not that I had been staring down at my dick or whatever until then. Poorly worded perhaps, but I didn't even know I'd said anything that would have suggested that until I went back and read it.

Ultimately though, with a movie, if any ONE person is responsible for the final product, it's the director. If Bay didn't like anything in the script he could have had parts rewritten, or hell, he could have asked for a whole new script and the studio probably would have jumped through hoops to make it happen. For all we know he may very well have CUT scenes involving dialog and character development out, or perhaps made rewrites on set during filming, to the annoyance of the writers. Happens all the time. The director has the most control of any one individual, so it's not exactly misplaced blame to hold him mostly responsible for how a movie turns out. Granted, there are times when the studio will alter a movie against the director's wishes (see Fincher's Alien 3), but until I hear otherwise, I'm going to assume that Bay was satisfied with the final product.