Atheist Fail Fail

[mothwentbad]

The bold claim has been advanced that a health stance that includes condom advocacy indicates a failure to understand how pregnancy works. Of course, atheists generally understand how pregnancy works. That's why I have adopted the practice of using condoms when having recreational sex rather than saying, " fuck it, you're probably trying to get

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[vee_ecks]

So, out of the sophistry, into the disingenuousness?

Man, that atheism_fail thread reminded me: did I ever tell you that fucking Buddhists troll and flame depression and other mental illness support groups just as bad as Scientologists, and for the same reasons?

[mothwentbad]

I don't think so, but it sounds like the kind of thing you would tell me about.

[vee_ecks]

Yeah. Buddhists fuck with other Buddhists about it, too - after all, transforming your mind is the whole point, so how can you really be practicing sincerely if you're taking meds?

Of course, these are American Buddhists we're talking about. What's even better is that the Asian Buddhists, in particular, tend to *hate* American Buddhists and consider them fast food religious, basically, and distorting their precious.

[jenlight]

Whoa weird. Since when do Buddhists not "believe" in mental illness?

[vee_ecks]

There's similar business with some Christians - they feel like if you really knew God, you'd be all better and how can you be depressed?

I know, it sounds insane, and I couldn't believe it when I discovered it back in the nineties, but I've seen Buddhists trolling for Buddha, arguing with people and telling they should stop taking their meds, etc. I checked out some Buddhist mags after that, and...it wasn't just an individual thing. There are articles about "Can you take medication and be Buddhist" and wars in letter columns about it. It's nuts.

[mothwentbad]

There's similar business with some Christians - they feel like if you really knew God, you'd be all better and how can you be depressed?

I can totally see that. When I was agnostic and my mom was all "you should take antidepressants... but it's your choice" and wouldn't stop until I "agreed" with her or whatever the FUCK, I thought it was creepy and weird, and that I'd be sending my soul away to the Stepford Kid Farm never to be heard from again. If an omnipotent being who loved me bunches really did exist, would it have been that weird of a thing to expect it to be enough to give me purpose, meaning, and general well being of the mind that can withstand all? I don't think so. This psychotic medication stuff is pretty materialist, and not at all anticipated by Christianity.

[vee_ecks]

Yeah, except they don't have Jesus in their hearts, either, really, and are just as prone to normal terrors and doubts and whatever as the rest of us. They're angry because yeah, you would expect Christ's taking residence inside a person to make things like depression impossible. And yet it is not. So...

[mothwentbad]

...the Lord works in mysterious ways? Sometimes he says "yes", sometimes he says "no", and sometimes he says "later"? It's a test?

[vee_ecks]

All of them. None of them. It's mysterious.

[jenlight]

I know, it sounds insane

No more insane than Zombie Jesus.

[vee_ecks]

No, I just meant...I thought Buddhists were cooler than that, up until then.

[jenlight]

Nah.
The Dalai Lama has slaves!

Not sure why or when the Orientalists (or who actually) started romanticizing Buddhism.