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rebcake November 10 2011, 16:52:00 UTC
We know that Severin has been sucking the demons from old, non-zompire, vampires, as the police found that the bodies were of people that had been missing persons for decades.

I also think that Willow was saying that vamps' demons used to come over from other dimensions, but now they can't make the trip, leaving the new vampire "demonless". Which, as so many people have stated, makes no sense.

Unless! Perhaps they are going back to the old idea of vampirism as a virus. This actually makes some sense in a world without magic. Perhaps ingesting vampire blood always created an animated zombie corpse, but the extra-dimensional demon (no longer available) that moved in was somehow able to tap into the cerebral cortex and create a symbiotic sentient creature out of the zompire, the human memories, and itself. That would mean that vampirism was actually two separate events in the past: a) zombification, and b) demon possession. Step "b" is no longer possible with the dimensional doors shut tight.

*is quite proud of wanking skills* Hmmm. That didn't come out right....

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shipperx November 10 2011, 18:43:55 UTC
We know that Severin has been sucking the demons from old, non-zompire, vampires, as the police found that the bodies were of people that had been missing persons for decades.

Since their power is demonic... wouldn't that make Severin increasingly demon possessed?

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rebcake November 10 2011, 19:33:45 UTC
Well, sucking out demonic "energy" (whatever) doesn't have to be the same as taking on the essence of the demon, just as eating a steak doesn't make us possessed by a cow, or breathing air doesn't turn us into gas forms, etc.

Where my 2-step theory breaks down is that if the demon is not the animating force of the vampire, wouldn't its removal just turn the remaining entity back into a zompire, rather than a dead human? It's not like Severin is removing the "virus". Probably. IDEK, obviously.

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moscow_watcher November 10 2011, 19:21:53 UTC
I also think that Willow was saying that vamps' demons used to come over from other dimensions, but now they can't make the trip, leaving the new vampire "demonless". Which, as so many people have stated, makes no sense.

I'm suddenly struck with a thought: where all the demon essense go when a vampire is dusted - now, post-Seed, when all the portals are closed? Could it travel from dusted vamps to newly-sired vamps?

(I should stop thinking about it...)

Perhaps they are going back to the old idea of vampirism as a virus. This actually makes some sense in a world without magic. Perhaps ingesting vampire blood always created an animated zombie corpse, but the extra-dimensional demon (no longer available) that moved in was somehow able to tap into the cerebral cortex and create a symbiotic sentient creature out of the zompire, the human memories, and itself. That would mean that vampirism was actually two separate events in the past: a) zombification, and b) demon possession. Step "b" is no longer possible with the dimensional doors shut tight.

Actually, it's a great theory - but I think that writers never intended to go that deep. They're most likely enjoyed coining the word "zompire" and laughed a lot.

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rebcake November 10 2011, 19:38:46 UTC
As ShipperX says above, perhaps Severin is incorporating the demon essence? However, if the demon essence is the equivalent of a human soul, metaphysically speaking, the bigger question is whether the seedless world is cut off from all other dimensions, including heaven. If so, then the demon essence and the human soul are in the same boat - cast adrift at death. Bum bum bum BUM.

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moscow_watcher November 10 2011, 19:54:23 UTC
And they're accumulating in the atmosphere, causing an ecological crisis. Or possessing planes and helicopters.

Actually, I think that writers just didn't think about it at all.

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slaymesoftly November 11 2011, 22:14:40 UTC
Hee! I'm sure your wanking skills are excellent. Oh wait, unless you meant...

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