Turns out, since the destructon of the seed, all the newly-sired vampires are "remotely possessed" by demons from other dimensions; this type of possession makes them more feral and ugly
I don't think that's what Willow meant at all. She meant that because of the seed being broken no vampire demons can come from another dimension to possess people and turn them into vampires, so when they rise from the dead they're mindless and feral.
Which makes no sense IMO. If's it's the demon that's animating the dead bodies, and the demon can't get here, why aren't those people just dead?
Willow: "The demon can't pass into this world. The demon has to possess the vampire's body from another dimension."
In any case, you're absolutely right about it making no sense. :) The metaphysics of Jossverse defy logic quite regularly.
I try to figure out WHY Joss needs to introduce a new type of vampires into his verse? Is it just a metaphor of the new vampire trend in mass culture? Or the writers plan some unusual plot twist, like Buffy siding with old vampires against new vampires?
I hope it, too. Judging by the number of vampire corpses on the last page, zompires are new cannon fodder; I just hope writers won't go for quantity instead of quality.
So far, it seems that Severin will be the little bad, while the Big Bag is not revealed yet.
Turns out, since the destructon of the seed, all the newly-sired vampires are "remotely possessed" by demons from other dimensions; this type of possession makes them more feral and ugly. They can't control their basic instincts for blood. The logic behind the explanation is very flimsy, but whatev. It's make-believe after all. So, there are "old" vampires, who abide by "Harmony rules" and the are new "zompires" who are mindless killers.
That just makes no sense to me. The more feral and ugly they are was initially supposed to mean that the demon inside was more "pure," and if it's more pure, it should theoretically mean it's closer to the "becoming a demon" process than the average process. And if the seed cut off that process in its entirety, than there shouldn't be anymore vampires made in any shape or form. Zompires or not. Just my two cents, of course ;)
It makes no sense to anybody. I looked through the discussions at several boards, and everybody is confused. The moment you start to actually think and analyse, the whole concept falls apart.
I wonder who is responsible for visual continuity. *cough* editors *cough*
and discovers that the demon considers himself indebted to Buffy because she has freed him by destroying The Seed
Any bets that the story with Koh won't be one full of roses? Why was he prisoned? And if he had been prisoned because he was evil, who guarantees that his loyalty to Buffy will prevent him from doing evil in the future? etc etc
The much-debated Xander and Dawn's refusal to let Buffy sleep on their couch turns out to be a good thing, as police detectives visit them soon after.
Well not exactly since the police didn't search the apartment.
He is smoking a bit, in his Sam Spade attire, but he doesn't turn into dust.
It's a covered boat so that protects him more from the sun.
Apparently, they're too busy to pay attention to such insignificant details... :)
Any bets that the story with Koh won't be one full of roses? Why was he prisoned? And if he had been prisoned because he was evil, who guarantees that his loyalty to Buffy will prevent him from doing evil in the future? etc etc
I agree. His story promises to be fascinating. So far he could turn into a male version of Illyria. He spent so much time in his prison that he must be disoriented in the modern world. I wonder if the writers will go in that direction.
Well not exactly since the police didn't search the apartment.
You're right - then again, an experienced cop can notice signs of a person's presence even without searching the apartment - like slippers under the bed or something like that.
I'm torn about Xander and Dawn's attitude.
It's a covered boat so that protects him more from the sun.Yes, you're most likely right - but, apparently, when they arrive at Alcatraz, he had to walk to the prison building. Than again,
( ... )
but, apparently, when they arrive at Alcatraz, he had to walk to the prison building. Than again, there are clouds on the sky - apparently we're supposed to assume that Spike got lucky.
Yeah, right, clouds in the sky, and in a couple of hours the sky was full of stars.....like you said, the editors in DH are too busy dealing with such insignificant things.
I just read your IWRY entry and I loved it. As always, you are one of the very few writeres who knows how to write humor that's both funny and completely character based. Buffy's mrtification at it being the real Angel was a hoot.
I also loved the twist you gave the amulet. Really great and I kind of wish that had been in the show.
Finally, don't forget to go here to get a Zachary designed holiday card from me!
I still do plan to do a comics write-up. Real life should start being more cooperative (grumble, grumble).
I am sorry that your post office is so wonky. Maybe Zachary will let me e-mail it to you (he is a very fussy artist and only likes his work viewed if he feels it captures his intentions. You should see him getting something printed.)
Abd being contrary is fun. We need to be the Joss-antidote!
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I don't think that's what Willow meant at all. She meant that because of the seed being broken no vampire demons can come from another dimension to possess people and turn them into vampires, so when they rise from the dead they're mindless and feral.
Which makes no sense IMO. If's it's the demon that's animating the dead bodies, and the demon can't get here, why aren't those people just dead?
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In any case, you're absolutely right about it making no sense. :) The metaphysics of Jossverse defy logic quite regularly.
I try to figure out WHY Joss needs to introduce a new type of vampires into his verse? Is it just a metaphor of the new vampire trend in mass culture? Or the writers plan some unusual plot twist, like Buffy siding with old vampires against new vampires?
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So far, it seems that Severin will be the little bad, while the Big Bag is not revealed yet.
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That just makes no sense to me. The more feral and ugly they are was initially supposed to mean that the demon inside was more "pure," and if it's more pure, it should theoretically mean it's closer to the "becoming a demon" process than the average process. And if the seed cut off that process in its entirety, than there shouldn't be anymore vampires made in any shape or form. Zompires or not. Just my two cents, of course ;)
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It makes no sense to anybody. I looked through the discussions at several boards, and everybody is confused. The moment you start to actually think and analyse, the whole concept falls apart.
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*cough* editors *cough*
and discovers that the demon considers himself indebted to Buffy because she has freed him by destroying The Seed
Any bets that the story with Koh won't be one full of roses?
Why was he prisoned?
And if he had been prisoned because he was evil, who guarantees that his loyalty to Buffy will prevent him from doing evil in the future?
etc etc
The much-debated Xander and Dawn's refusal to let Buffy sleep on their couch turns out to be a good thing, as police detectives visit them soon after.
Well not exactly since the police didn't search the apartment.
He is smoking a bit, in his Sam Spade attire, but he doesn't turn into dust.
It's a covered boat so that protects him more from the sun.
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Apparently, they're too busy to pay attention to such insignificant details... :)
Any bets that the story with Koh won't be one full of roses?
Why was he prisoned?
And if he had been prisoned because he was evil, who guarantees that his loyalty to Buffy will prevent him from doing evil in the future?
etc etc
I agree. His story promises to be fascinating. So far he could turn into a male version of Illyria. He spent so much time in his prison that he must be disoriented in the modern world. I wonder if the writers will go in that direction.
Well not exactly since the police didn't search the apartment.
You're right - then again, an experienced cop can notice signs of a person's presence even without searching the apartment - like slippers under the bed or something like that.
I'm torn about Xander and Dawn's attitude.
It's a covered boat so that protects him more from the sun.Yes, you're most likely right - but, apparently, when they arrive at Alcatraz, he had to walk to the prison building. Than again, ( ... )
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Yeah, right, clouds in the sky, and in a couple of hours the sky was full of stars.....like you said, the editors in DH are too busy dealing with such insignificant things.
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I just read your IWRY entry and I loved it. As always, you are one of the very few writeres who knows how to write humor that's both funny and completely character based. Buffy's mrtification at it being the real Angel was a hoot.
I also loved the twist you gave the amulet. Really great and I kind of wish that had been in the show.
Finally, don't forget to go here to get a Zachary designed holiday card from me!
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I still do plan to do a comics write-up. Real life should start being more cooperative (grumble, grumble).
I am sorry that your post office is so wonky. Maybe Zachary will let me e-mail it to you (he is a very fussy artist and only likes his work viewed if he feels it captures his intentions. You should see him getting something printed.)
Abd being contrary is fun. We need to be the Joss-antidote!
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