Buffy #33 - summary and thinky thoughts

Mar 05, 2010 16:48

"There's a reason I loved you the moment I saw you. There's a reason we can't be happy with anyone else. And there's a reason your whole body is glowing right now. And there's a reason that despite all the power coursing through me, what I feel right now is weak. I'm terrified you'll go. You'll leave before we have a chance to explore what this ( Read more... )

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keith5by5 March 5 2010, 14:26:24 UTC
Gotta be honest, I haven't read any of the comics (S6 & 7 drove me away from ever buying anything non-Dushku Whedon related), but from all the reviews I've read, basically reinforces my conclusion.

Whedon sacrifices characterisation, continuity, and motivation for plot which makes for unconvincing and sloppy story-telling.

I know you're a massive Spike fan, and he's a funny guy, but in what universe does he go for their help after being chipped and in what universe do the Scoobies not kill him?

Why does the Council hunt Faith before and after her coma, but not kill her when she was comatose? it wasn't as if she was hidden.

Why is it rape when the BLACK Shadow Men force the first Slayer to become a Slayer, but Mass Empowerment when the WHITE girl forces women throughout the world to take the power.

Etc, etc.

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moscow_watcher March 5 2010, 15:05:13 UTC
Whedon sacrifices characterisation, continuity, and motivation for plot which makes for unconvincing and sloppy story-telling.

I also have the impression is that Joss' God is the story. Is it good or bad thing? I don't know. I thoroughly enjoy his stories as long as I don't get invested into characters much. But if I'm really invested, it becomes sheer torture. I was on the verge of becoming a full-fledged "Dollhouse" fan when the show was cancelled. The only thing that kept me from delving deeper was Echo and ED bashing I met online. I went through fandom wars as a Spike and Spuffy fan, it took me several years to find an online niche where I feel comfortable, and I didn't want to go through the same experience again. There is something about Joss stuff that makes people really, deeply involved. He comes up with the most ridiculous plot twists and somehow they work, and I'm eager to suspend my disbelief.

in what universe does he go for their help after being chipped and in what universe do the Scoobies not kill him?Yes, but ( ... )

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keith5by5 March 5 2010, 15:15:37 UTC
"I also have the impression is that Joss' God is the story. Is it good or bad thing ( ... )

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moscow_watcher March 5 2010, 18:15:52 UTC
Oh, you're so hard on Joss, Keith! :)

You know, I started writing a long comment in Joss' defence, but then decided against it. We both know we can't change each other's opinions. Let's focus on the positive things. Have you seen these?
http://buffy-angel.diary.ru/p98464400.htm

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keith5by5 March 5 2010, 18:30:09 UTC
"You know, I started writing a long comment in Joss' defence, but then decided against it. We both know we can't change each other's opinions."

I be more tolerant of his failings as a writer (he did create some of my favourite characters) if a) he wasn't such an ass and b) his more fanatic supporters (not yourself) didn't accuse people who didn't like his stuff as stupid etc. And while Whedon doesn't cause these people to act the way they do, he does play to the gallery...

Out of interest, are you a Supernatural fan?

" Let's focus on the positive things. Have you seen these?
http://buffy-angel.diary.ru/p98464400.htm"

I have thank you, they're from Monday's night presentation of 'Live In Public'

Eliza's done a Family Guy episode and some other voice work this week.

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moscow_watcher March 5 2010, 20:50:57 UTC
Out of interest, are you a Supernatural fan?

I watch it occasionally, but I avoid the fandom, although many of my BtVS friends have drifted there. To me SPN fandom is too extreme. I'm okay with slash and I even wrote one Spangel ficlet, but Wincest squicks me.

Eliza's done a Family Guy episode and some other voice work this week.

I try to follow her on Twitter, but I usually get her news on Russian Buffy/Angel community. Luckily, both mods there are big Faith and ED's fans.

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keith5by5 March 5 2010, 20:59:16 UTC
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I watch it occasionally, but I avoid the fandom, although many of my BtVS friends have drifted there. To me SPN fandom is too extreme. I'm okay with slash and I even wrote one Spangel ficlet, but Wincest squicks me."

Yeah, the SPN fandom's appalling, I watched a couple of episodes was meh on it, but went into the fandom and ran away screaming. Then my best mate got into it, and nagged me into watching it.

It's brilliant, as close as anything as a cross between American Gothic and Angel. Really noir and the bloke who plays Dean is fantastic, Sam not so much.

Still stay away from the fandom itself though. I imagine it's only got worse with the addition of Castiel.

"I try to follow her on Twitter, but I usually get her news on Russian Buffy/Angel community. Luckily, both mods there are big Faith and ED's fans."

Cool.

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