Heroes thoughts and theories
I'll go ahead and cut this, since I have a feeling it'll get long... assume spoilers for any aired episodes of Heroes.
So... Joe took me out to dinner on Saturday night to celebrate my birthday (since I was off playing with the Young Dubs on my actual birthday) and like any good geeks, we spent most of the afternoon/evening discussing Heroes and The Dresden Files. A couple of the Heroes discussions ('cause there were several, and they rambled all over the place) really struck me because I thought of things that I'd never considered before. There are actually 2 specific episodes that I want to go back and re-watch because I want to see what was *actually* said in specific scenes, instead of what my subconscious *thinks* was said. Here are the things that are rambling through my head right now, though:
1) Peter - Everyone is in agreement that Peter's "power" is the ability to mimic other people's powers. There's also discussion about his prophetic dreaming. I'm not so sure that the dreaming is *his* power, though. I've almost convinced myself that this is a power that he picked up from Simone's dad. Think about it-- Simone's dad is the one who owned this building that has become so integral to the history of these people. It's where HRG was ordered to "adopt" Claire. It's where Claude was hiding out. It's where Simone and Isaac had their moment. It's the viewpoint of Isaac's painting of post-explosion New York. This building is important, and it's owned by Mr. Deveaux. One of the things that convinces Peter that something odd is going on is when Simone tells him that her dad said that he'd been "flying with Peter", after Peter had the same dream. I'm wondering now if Simone's dad was having the vision and pulled Peter into it. Was Peter already working for the Deveaux's when Nathan and his wife had their accident 6 months ago? I can't remember.
My other thought is that the dreaming is a power that Peter has picked up from either his mom or his dad. We know that Mr. Petrelli was having "delusions of grandeur"... or at least that's the story that's being told. This was something that was told to us, as viewers, in such a way as to make us think that it was relevant to Peter's storyline only in that Nathan was accusing Peter of the same thing. Nathan wanted Peter to think that he was mentally unstable, and that he was pre-disposed to such a thing because of genetics. I think that having prophetic dreams would certainly lead one to have delusions of grandeur, though...
I just think that the dreaming is an ability that Peter picked up from someone else rather than it being an innate ability. At this point in time, every hero that we've met has had one ability (I'm ignoring the Haitian for the moment... I'll get to him) so for Peter to have the dreams AND be a mutant sponge just doesn't make sense. So he had to have picked up the dreams from somewhere.
I think it's a pretty safe bet to assume that the mutant ability in general is genetic. We know that Claire is the offspring of 2 mutants. We know that Micah is the offspring of 2 mutants. If Nathan and Pater *both* have abilities, I think it's a safe assumption that at least one of their parents are special in some way, yes?
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2) The Haitian, Mr Bennett, and Claude - I have so many questions about the Haitian, but here's the thing that struck me as I was talking with Joe. Remember the comment I made earlier about the fact that all of the heroes seem to have *one* power. Nathan can fly. Matt can hear voices. Nikki/Jessica has super strength. Hana can hear wireless communication. Claire can heal herself...
And then there's the Haitian. He appears to have 2 separate powers-- the power to block other people's powers AND the ability to erase memories. While I can understand Joe's reasoning that the powers are related because they're both about "blocking" something, I don't buy it. I've suspected from the beginning that the Haitian actually has nothing to do with the blocking of powers, and I've harbored the idea that it's actually a power that Mr. Bennett controls. If I remember correctly, the only time that we've seen "The Haitian" use this power when Mr. Bennett wasn't around was when Matt saw him in the bar. But in that instance, we don't know for certain that Mr. Bennett *wasn't* there. Everything is from Matt's perspective, and he may have just not seen Mr. Bennett before he was distracted by the Haitian. In fact, I think it's more likely to assume that Mr. Bennett WAS around, because in all the other instances when they've "captured" a mutant, Mr. Bennett was personally involved.
The other thing about this "blocking" ability is that the ONLY person who has referred to it is Mr. Bennett himself. When Mini-Haitian was introduced in the flashback in "Company Man", the only power that was mentioned by whatshisface was the power to erase memories. When they asked him what his power was, he drew a picture of himself taking memories out of peoples' heads. He didn't draw a picture of him putting a shield up around someone else.
Now bring Claude into the picture again. HRG is ordered to kill Claude because he's "hiding one of them". He tries to get Claude to tell him who he's hiding, and Claude refuses. We, as viewers, have no clue who it is either. It could be one of the heroes we've already met (Claire, Hiro, one of the Petrelli brothers...) or it could be someone that we haven't even heard of before. Or... it could be someone that we've met, but that hasn't been revealed to have a power. Someone like Mrs. Petrelli, Mr. Petrelli, Mr. Deveaux... or maybe Mr. Bennett himself.
Claude has been working with HRG for several years now. Presumably, they've become friends and have learned a lot about each other. Claude knows what The Company will do if they find out that Mr. Bennett has some sort of secret power... but luckily, there's this other person who's already in the picture who can make Mr. Bennett FORGET that he has this power. It makes sense to me... Claude is trying to protect Mr. Bennett himself, but can't *tell* him that... and so he sacrifices himself for someone he believes is a friend... and starts down his path of hating mankind.
I really *like* this idea, and if I was writing this show, it's what I'd do. ;)
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Another one of the things that came up in conversation is the number of secret groups that are involved.
We know we have The Company.
We have Mr. Linderman... who may or may not be involved with The Company.
We have Mrs. Petrelli... who may or may not be involved with The Company.
We have Mr. Nakamora... who may or may not be involved with The Company.
We have Mr. Bennett... who we know works for The Company, but how much of what he's been doing is on the Company's orders and how much is rogue activity?
What exactly is the goal of The Company? They obviously don't want to unilaterally destroy all of the mutants, because they employee several of them (Claude, The Haitian, Eden, Mystique-wannabe) but they're also obviously in existence for *some* reason. They're testing for something... they're tagging and tracking the mutants... so are they just observing, or are they trying to influence something, or is this all some sort of genetic experiment? (I still think Mr. Linderman was hoping for another mutant-baby when he sent Nikki/Jessica after Nathan in Vegas)
*sigh* Is it April yet?
So... Joe took me out to dinner on Saturday night to celebrate my birthday (since I was off playing with the Young Dubs on my actual birthday) and like any good geeks, we spent most of the afternoon/evening discussing Heroes and The Dresden Files. A couple of the Heroes discussions ('cause there were several, and they rambled all over the place) really struck me because I thought of things that I'd never considered before. There are actually 2 specific episodes that I want to go back and re-watch because I want to see what was *actually* said in specific scenes, instead of what my subconscious *thinks* was said. Here are the things that are rambling through my head right now, though:
1) Peter - Everyone is in agreement that Peter's "power" is the ability to mimic other people's powers. There's also discussion about his prophetic dreaming. I'm not so sure that the dreaming is *his* power, though. I've almost convinced myself that this is a power that he picked up from Simone's dad. Think about it-- Simone's dad is the one who owned this building that has become so integral to the history of these people. It's where HRG was ordered to "adopt" Claire. It's where Claude was hiding out. It's where Simone and Isaac had their moment. It's the viewpoint of Isaac's painting of post-explosion New York. This building is important, and it's owned by Mr. Deveaux. One of the things that convinces Peter that something odd is going on is when Simone tells him that her dad said that he'd been "flying with Peter", after Peter had the same dream. I'm wondering now if Simone's dad was having the vision and pulled Peter into it. Was Peter already working for the Deveaux's when Nathan and his wife had their accident 6 months ago? I can't remember.
My other thought is that the dreaming is a power that Peter has picked up from either his mom or his dad. We know that Mr. Petrelli was having "delusions of grandeur"... or at least that's the story that's being told. This was something that was told to us, as viewers, in such a way as to make us think that it was relevant to Peter's storyline only in that Nathan was accusing Peter of the same thing. Nathan wanted Peter to think that he was mentally unstable, and that he was pre-disposed to such a thing because of genetics. I think that having prophetic dreams would certainly lead one to have delusions of grandeur, though...
I just think that the dreaming is an ability that Peter picked up from someone else rather than it being an innate ability. At this point in time, every hero that we've met has had one ability (I'm ignoring the Haitian for the moment... I'll get to him) so for Peter to have the dreams AND be a mutant sponge just doesn't make sense. So he had to have picked up the dreams from somewhere.
I think it's a pretty safe bet to assume that the mutant ability in general is genetic. We know that Claire is the offspring of 2 mutants. We know that Micah is the offspring of 2 mutants. If Nathan and Pater *both* have abilities, I think it's a safe assumption that at least one of their parents are special in some way, yes?
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2) The Haitian, Mr Bennett, and Claude - I have so many questions about the Haitian, but here's the thing that struck me as I was talking with Joe. Remember the comment I made earlier about the fact that all of the heroes seem to have *one* power. Nathan can fly. Matt can hear voices. Nikki/Jessica has super strength. Hana can hear wireless communication. Claire can heal herself...
And then there's the Haitian. He appears to have 2 separate powers-- the power to block other people's powers AND the ability to erase memories. While I can understand Joe's reasoning that the powers are related because they're both about "blocking" something, I don't buy it. I've suspected from the beginning that the Haitian actually has nothing to do with the blocking of powers, and I've harbored the idea that it's actually a power that Mr. Bennett controls. If I remember correctly, the only time that we've seen "The Haitian" use this power when Mr. Bennett wasn't around was when Matt saw him in the bar. But in that instance, we don't know for certain that Mr. Bennett *wasn't* there. Everything is from Matt's perspective, and he may have just not seen Mr. Bennett before he was distracted by the Haitian. In fact, I think it's more likely to assume that Mr. Bennett WAS around, because in all the other instances when they've "captured" a mutant, Mr. Bennett was personally involved.
The other thing about this "blocking" ability is that the ONLY person who has referred to it is Mr. Bennett himself. When Mini-Haitian was introduced in the flashback in "Company Man", the only power that was mentioned by whatshisface was the power to erase memories. When they asked him what his power was, he drew a picture of himself taking memories out of peoples' heads. He didn't draw a picture of him putting a shield up around someone else.
Now bring Claude into the picture again. HRG is ordered to kill Claude because he's "hiding one of them". He tries to get Claude to tell him who he's hiding, and Claude refuses. We, as viewers, have no clue who it is either. It could be one of the heroes we've already met (Claire, Hiro, one of the Petrelli brothers...) or it could be someone that we haven't even heard of before. Or... it could be someone that we've met, but that hasn't been revealed to have a power. Someone like Mrs. Petrelli, Mr. Petrelli, Mr. Deveaux... or maybe Mr. Bennett himself.
Claude has been working with HRG for several years now. Presumably, they've become friends and have learned a lot about each other. Claude knows what The Company will do if they find out that Mr. Bennett has some sort of secret power... but luckily, there's this other person who's already in the picture who can make Mr. Bennett FORGET that he has this power. It makes sense to me... Claude is trying to protect Mr. Bennett himself, but can't *tell* him that... and so he sacrifices himself for someone he believes is a friend... and starts down his path of hating mankind.
I really *like* this idea, and if I was writing this show, it's what I'd do. ;)
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Another one of the things that came up in conversation is the number of secret groups that are involved.
We know we have The Company.
We have Mr. Linderman... who may or may not be involved with The Company.
We have Mrs. Petrelli... who may or may not be involved with The Company.
We have Mr. Nakamora... who may or may not be involved with The Company.
We have Mr. Bennett... who we know works for The Company, but how much of what he's been doing is on the Company's orders and how much is rogue activity?
What exactly is the goal of The Company? They obviously don't want to unilaterally destroy all of the mutants, because they employee several of them (Claude, The Haitian, Eden, Mystique-wannabe) but they're also obviously in existence for *some* reason. They're testing for something... they're tagging and tracking the mutants... so are they just observing, or are they trying to influence something, or is this all some sort of genetic experiment? (I still think Mr. Linderman was hoping for another mutant-baby when he sent Nikki/Jessica after Nathan in Vegas)
*sigh* Is it April yet?