And I kind of had a hunch all along that they were all dead anyway
Maybe I'm totally wrong, but I don't think that the Losties in the primary universe were ever meant to be dead (aside from the ones who obviously were-- Michael's ghost, Jacob, and so forth). I think that the secondary universe was meant to have been where their post-death consciousnesses transferred to.
And why didn't Jack or Desmond turn into a smoke monster after going down the well?
GOOD EFFING QUESTION. What happened at that point in "Across The Sea"? Did Smokey just fall down onto the rock? "Hey, bro! There's a big glowing, rotating thing down here!" Also, if someone can find their way back to the Source after being led there, why couldn't Smokey after Jacob dragged him there and threw him in? /shrug
How come they didn't make anything of the parallel between the stab wound in Jack's abdomen and his appendectomy on the beach?
Maybe because the wounds to his neck and stomach were his death wounds.
Saturday night reminded me of how sympathetic a
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"Maybe I'm totally wrong, but I don't think that the Losties in the primary universe were ever meant to be dead (aside from the ones who obviously were-- Michael's ghost, Jacob, and so forth). I think that the secondary universe was meant to have been where their post-death consciousnesses transferred to."
Well, I've now switched my thinking, after reading a number of postings on the LJ communities, that the flashes-sideways are the only post-life experiences that they had; the rest was real.
"Funny; I've felt that Jack was an annoying douche up until the last season-and-a-half. I'm still not a Jack fan, per se, but... I've come to sympathize with him."
Actually, I hated him in Seasons 3-5; he started to seem more sympathetic again this season, but not like he was the first season. I'm starting to think he had to go through the emo stage as, being a doctor, he was forced to get past his "God complex" and finally come to realize that he couldn't "fix" everything.
"I felt that Ben wanted to stay in order to live out his life with
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Well, I've now switched my thinking, after reading a number of postings on the LJ communities, that the flashes-sideways are the only post-life experiences that they had; the rest was real.
I'm glad you've come around to that way of thinking. If I'd ever taken it the way you initially took it, I would have been horribly frustrated and annoyed.
Actually, I hated him in Seasons 3-5; he started to seem more sympathetic again this season, but not like he was the first season. I'm starting to think he had to go through the emo stage as, being a doctor, he was forced to get past his "God complex" and finally come to realize that he couldn't "fix" everything.
I, actually, started to like him just a tiny bit more during his breakdown. Not because he was doing anything better, but just because he was more entertaining. Of course, this will always be my favorite Jack moment:
LOL ... I shouldn't be laughing, but that flying toolbox anim does look really funny ... repeated over and over.
"The funny thing is, I think I gained a lot of sympathy for Jack when I was doing my fanmix for him. It was the first time that had occurred to me, actually: Holy shit. How awful would it be to be in love with Kate?"
OMG, you're right! She officially became the Most Annoying Character for me in Season 3 when she stood there sobbing and begging Jack to save Sawyer's life. (But I still think they kind of deserved each other.)
"YOU MEAN HIS ADORABLE TEACHER HAIR"
Well, we thought it was adorable, of course; it was Michael Emerson who made fun of sideways!Ben's "bad hair" in the online commentary he wrote for that episode.
"Unless I'm wrong, Hurley is dead in the primary universe, in the future. Or, rather, he will die at some point. After that, his consciousness will transfer over (from the POV of someone in primary timeline present) or has transferred over (from the POV of someone in secondary timeline present). Did I
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OMG, you're right! She officially became the Most Annoying Character for me in Season 3 when she stood there sobbing and begging Jack to save Sawyer's life. (But I still think they kind of deserved each other.)
Kate, for me, has been remarkably obnoxious since mid-season one.
Well, we thought it was adorable, of course; it was Michael Emerson who made fun of sideways!Ben's "bad hair" in the online commentary he wrote for that episode.
Sorry, even Michael Emerson isn't allowed to make fun of Ben.
(Joking, of course. Don't know if you know me well enough yet to know that I'm not that rabid.)
Yep, sort of. Now that I think of sideways time as being outside of our chronological time, I believe Hurley and Ben are still alive in 2010 island time, and will be for a long time to come. Go Burley!
I see the flash-sideways to also be flash-forwards, in this regard.
Samuel is Smokey's quasi-official name now? Where'd you hear that?
Some show I don't remember the name of and never watch except it was Lost-related. Apparently, "Samuel"
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Sorry for not replying to this sooner. I've been away for a while, moving and getting settled, but it's been on my To Do list ...
"I see the flash-sideways to also be flash-forwards, in this regard."Yes, as I flash back on it all, I see what we thought at the time were flashes-sideways to be further flash-forwards. (On the other hand, I still haven't seen the epilogue, so I have yet to find out what that further answers may be revealed there--and don't want to know till I see it! Hopefully, the big reveal will be an opening for a spin-off starring Michael, Terry, and Jorge wandering around the jungle exchanging absurd quips
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Sorry for not replying to this sooner. I've been away for a while, moving and getting settled, but it's been on my To Do list ...
It's okay!
Shhhbpppbppp! (Flashback noise)
still haven't seen the epilogue, so I have yet to find out what that further answers may be revealed there
The amusing thing about the epilogue is that much of it is precisely what the show was not: people standing around and rattling off explanations for things.
A few of the things they addressed were things I strongly expected never to be addressed in any form, so it was funny to see them come up again.
Of course, not giving him a name, is sort of the ultimate insult, isn't it? Makes you feel a bit sorry for him.
I do feel sorry for him! The show did him dirty in several respects.
Samuel starts out as the favorite and gets damned simply for wanting to leave the island; Jacob ends up in control because of his lack of curiosity.This sums it up pretty well. That was what appalled me about Jacob in "Across the Sea." Modern-day Jacob seems to be curious,
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Maybe I'm totally wrong, but I don't think that the Losties in the primary universe were ever meant to be dead (aside from the ones who obviously were-- Michael's ghost, Jacob, and so forth). I think that the secondary universe was meant to have been where their post-death consciousnesses transferred to.
And why didn't Jack or Desmond turn into a smoke monster after going down the well?
GOOD EFFING QUESTION. What happened at that point in "Across The Sea"? Did Smokey just fall down onto the rock? "Hey, bro! There's a big glowing, rotating thing down here!" Also, if someone can find their way back to the Source after being led there, why couldn't Smokey after Jacob dragged him there and threw him in? /shrug
How come they didn't make anything of the parallel between the stab wound in Jack's abdomen and his appendectomy on the beach?
Maybe because the wounds to his neck and stomach were his death wounds.
Saturday night reminded me of how sympathetic a ( ... )
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Well, I've now switched my thinking, after reading a number of postings on the LJ communities, that the flashes-sideways are the only post-life experiences that they had; the rest was real.
"Funny; I've felt that Jack was an annoying douche up until the last season-and-a-half. I'm still not a Jack fan, per se, but... I've come to sympathize with him."
Actually, I hated him in Seasons 3-5; he started to seem more sympathetic again this season, but not like he was the first season. I'm starting to think he had to go through the emo stage as, being a doctor, he was forced to get past his "God complex" and finally come to realize that he couldn't "fix" everything.
"I felt that Ben wanted to stay in order to live out his life with ( ... )
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I'm glad you've come around to that way of thinking. If I'd ever taken it the way you initially took it, I would have been horribly frustrated and annoyed.
Actually, I hated him in Seasons 3-5; he started to seem more sympathetic again this season, but not like he was the first season. I'm starting to think he had to go through the emo stage as, being a doctor, he was forced to get past his "God complex" and finally come to realize that he couldn't "fix" everything.
I, actually, started to like him just a tiny bit more during his breakdown. Not because he was doing anything better, but just because he was more entertaining. Of course, this will always be my favorite Jack moment:
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"The funny thing is, I think I gained a lot of sympathy for Jack when I was doing my fanmix for him. It was the first time that had occurred to me, actually: Holy shit. How awful would it be to be in love with Kate?"
OMG, you're right! She officially became the Most Annoying Character for me in Season 3 when she stood there sobbing and begging Jack to save Sawyer's life. (But I still think they kind of deserved each other.)
"YOU MEAN HIS ADORABLE TEACHER HAIR"
Well, we thought it was adorable, of course; it was Michael Emerson who made fun of sideways!Ben's "bad hair" in the online commentary he wrote for that episode.
"Unless I'm wrong, Hurley is dead in the primary universe, in the future. Or, rather, he will die at some point. After that, his consciousness will transfer over (from the POV of someone in primary timeline present) or has transferred over (from the POV of someone in secondary timeline present). Did I ( ... )
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Kate, for me, has been remarkably obnoxious since mid-season one.
Well, we thought it was adorable, of course; it was Michael Emerson who made fun of sideways!Ben's "bad hair" in the online commentary he wrote for that episode.
Sorry, even Michael Emerson isn't allowed to make fun of Ben.
(Joking, of course. Don't know if you know me well enough yet to know that I'm not that rabid.)
Yep, sort of. Now that I think of sideways time as being outside of our chronological time, I believe Hurley and Ben are still alive in 2010 island time, and will be for a long time to come. Go Burley!
I see the flash-sideways to also be flash-forwards, in this regard.
Samuel is Smokey's quasi-official name now? Where'd you hear that?
Some show I don't remember the name of and never watch except it was Lost-related. Apparently, "Samuel" ( ... )
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"I see the flash-sideways to also be flash-forwards, in this regard."Yes, as I flash back on it all, I see what we thought at the time were flashes-sideways to be further flash-forwards. (On the other hand, I still haven't seen the epilogue, so I have yet to find out what that further answers may be revealed there--and don't want to know till I see it! Hopefully, the big reveal will be an opening for a spin-off starring Michael, Terry, and Jorge wandering around the jungle exchanging absurd quips ( ... )
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It's okay!
Shhhbpppbppp! (Flashback noise)
still haven't seen the epilogue, so I have yet to find out what that further answers may be revealed there
The amusing thing about the epilogue is that much of it is precisely what the show was not: people standing around and rattling off explanations for things.
A few of the things they addressed were things I strongly expected never to be addressed in any form, so it was funny to see them come up again.
Of course, not giving him a name, is sort of the ultimate insult, isn't it? Makes you feel a bit sorry for him.
I do feel sorry for him! The show did him dirty in several respects.
Samuel starts out as the favorite and gets damned simply for wanting to leave the island; Jacob ends up in control because of his lack of curiosity.This sums it up pretty well. That was what appalled me about Jacob in "Across the Sea." Modern-day Jacob seems to be curious, ( ... )
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