JCP/WCW guys that weren't in WWF

May 03, 2013 20:00

I was going through my JCP/WCW 1983-2001 files and cross-referencing people my WWWF/WWF/WWE 1970-2012 data.

These were the people that had 100+ JCP/WCW matches but I didn't find any records for WWF events.

I tried to grab all of the less obvious name changes (for instance, Tom Zenk's partner Johnny Gunn = Salvatore Sincere a.k.a. Tom Brandi in WWF).

Here was my list:
  • Bobby Eaton - Eaton's legacy in JCP/WCW (1983-2001-wise) is enormous lasting longer than even Ric Flair with over 2,100 matches between 1985-2001. He would have been too old after WCW folder. (2,134 JCP/WCW matches 1985-2000)
  • Sting - Arguably, the biggest WCW star never to go to WWF. (1,652 JCP/WCW matches from 1987 to 2001)
  • Nikita Koloff - "The Russian Nightmare" alleges that Vince wanted him for WM2/WM3 but they couldn't come to agreement. Meltzer didn't buy that but did confirm that "Hole-in-one" Barry Darsow wanted Koloff as part of Demolition when Eadie had health issues. (823 matches for 1984-1988, 226 matches 1991/1992 = 1,050 matches)
  • Stan Lane - part of the Midnight Express, the Fabulous Ones and the original Heavenly Bodies (prior to Jimmy Del Ray joining), I don't think Lane wrestled for WWF. However, he did join the fed in the early 90's to announce on Superstars, Wrestling Challenge and Colosseum Video matches. (776 matches 1987-1990)
  • Dennis Condrey - Midnight Expresser from 1985-1989 with 636 matches. I believe he ended up down at FCW as a Trainer for a short stint in April-May 2010.
  • Manny Fernandez - The Raging Bull had 554 matches from 1984-1987 but my favorite of his were the random late 1990's jobs to all sorts of guys including Brian Pillman (3/95), Bill Goldberg (12/97) and Chris Jericho (twice! 10/96 & 1/99).
  • Stevie Ray - His brother Booker similar/more matches in WWF (750+ vs 670), but I don't believe Stevie ever wrestled for the Fed. The original Kane had 528 matches between 1993-2001.
  • Magnum TA - 435 matches between 1984-1986. Car accident cut his wrestling career short.
  • Alex Wright - The one wrestler who should have been on Dancing with the Stars, his 1994-2001 career (400 matches) started young and meant that he left the WCW collapse at the tender age of 26.

    Others:
  • Disco Inferno: 373 matches from 1995-2001
  • Denny Brown: 365 matches from 1984-1987
  • Joel Deaton: This Thunderfoot had 332 matches from 1983-1987
  • Ole Anderson: 252 matches during his 1985-1987 run. What a softie!
  • Jack Victory: 282 matches during his 1988-1991 run. We shall call you Jacko.
  • Mark Fleming: 252 matches from 1983-1988.
  • Kendall Windham: 193 matches from 1987-1989 and brief 1998/1999 50-match return with the West Texas Rednecks. Perhaps Vince didn't need phony bills floating around the lockerroom.
  • Johnny Weaver: 244 matches 1983-1985. Broadcaster, Sleepholder, Blonde dude.
  • Sgt Buddy Lee Parker: 225 matches from 1989 to 1999 and Goldberg's partner in the dying days. Not invited to Batista's gym openings (or closings).
  • Prince Iaukea: 225 matches from 1996-2001. Perhaps now that WWE is in the terrible movie business, his work from Ready to Rumble will be in demand.
  • Rufus R Jones: 225 matches from 1983 to 1986
  • Rocky King: 224 matches from 1985 to 1988.  The original Rock.
  • Mark Youngblood: 213 matches from 1983 to 1984
  • Rip Morgan: 208 matches from 1988 to 1991
  • Al Greene: 193 matches from 1989 to 1991, 1993, 1998-2001.
  • Jody Hamilton: 192 matches from 1983 to 1984
  • La Parka: 183 matches from 1997 to 2001
  • Steve McMichael: 155 matches from 1996 to 1999. Though, he was with LT at Wrestlemania.
  • Bunkhouse Buck: 155 matches from 1994 to 1997. Jimmy Golden did appear at Swagger's daddy-o on Smackdown!.
  • Kaz Hayashi: 154 matches from 1998 to 2001. Back to Japan with the youngster!
  • PN News: 147 matches from 1991 to 1992. Perfect fodder for Otto's tournaments.
  • Vampiro: 144 matches from 1999 to 2001. Even ICP got to compete in WWF for goodness sake!
  • Brian Adidas: 143 matches in 1984. WCCW's own...
  • Silver King: 138 matches from 1997 to 2001
  • Evan Karagias: 137 matches from 1998 to 2001. They let Shannon Moore have a job for year but not Evan. What does that say?
  • Kenny Kaos: 134 matches from 1996 to 1999. Rick Steiner's favorite tag partner.
  • Chris Champion: 130 matches from 1987 to 1988 with 97 matches, and 33 more matches in 1993.
  • Gene Anderson: 127 matches from 1983 to 1984
  • Chris Adams: 121 matches from 1987 (22 matches) and a 1998-1999 mini-run (93 matches)
  • Lash Laroux: 121 matches from 1999 to 2001. Cajun power!
  • Dave Sullivan: 118 matches from 1993 to 1995. Evad Batista would have been a fun gimmick.
  • Super Calo: 117 matches from 1996 to 1999. Not normal Calo.
  • Dave Shelton: 117 matches from 1987 to 1991
  • Glacier: 115 matches from 1996 to 1999
  • Ranger Ross: 111 matches from 1989 to 1990. Nick Gage stole a page from him!
  • Jim & Mack Jeffers: 111 matches from 1985 to 1987
  • Ben Alexander: 105 matches from 1983 to 1985
  • Robbie Rage: 104 matches from 1996 to 1998. In another era, Vince would have found room in his heart for High Dosage.
  • Marcus Laurinaitis: 102 matches from 1987 to 1993. Ace's brother... the Terminator.
  • Sgt Craig Pittman: 100 matches from 1995 to 1997. He's a fighter!
So, did I mess up - any of these fellas have WWF runs that I missed?

I did find at least one WWF match for the other 231 people with 100+ matches....

Hector Guerrero: 222 matches from 1986/1987 and mini-run back in 1997.
He was the Gooker and I believe it was him in the suit for the Gimmick Battle Royal at WM.

Others that had a lot of JCP/WCW matches...

  • Jimmy Garvin (see below post for a list of the near-hits for Garvin in WWF)
  • Wahoo McDaniel - he was a 1972 Hawaii show where he teamed with World Champion Pedro Morales! But nothing else. They had Strongbow.
  • Tommy Rich - had two matches on WWF shows: Tommy Rich/Johnny Rodz (MSG 2/18/1980), Tommy Rich & Doug Gilbert/ Skip & Zip/Henry & Phinneas Godwinn (1996, Memphis, elimination match)
  • Gary Royal - was a jobber for three matches in April 1989 (lost to Ultimate Warrior, Rockers and Blue Blazer)
  • Van Hammer - two try-out matches in July 1993 against Virgil and Damien Demento
  • Rocky Kernodle - one match against the "Masked Warrior" at WWF @ Philadelphia, PA - Spectrum - November 10, 1984 (19,699)
  • Scotty Riggs - Scott Studd did one WWF Show 6/7/95 versus Gorgeous George III (w/ Harvey Wippleman) aka The Maestro
  • The Great Muta (see below post)
  • Todd Champion - had three WWF matches (1988 beat Barry Horowitz, 1993 wrestled Rikki Nelson twice)
  • Jay Youngblood - was on one WWF 4/21/80 MSG show: Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood defeated Tor Kamata & Bulldog Brower at 15:11
  • Scott Norton - wrestled Bob Holly once in Sunrise, FL in 1994
  • Tommy Rogers - had two matches on one WWF show (against Brian Christopher and Bobby Fulton)
  • Abdullah the Butcher - see below
  • Paul Jones - Bryan's #1 guy wrestled on 1972 MSG show (vs Jerry Brisco) and possibly was the same guy in 1993 who jobbed
    - Crush (w/ Mr. Fuji) defeated Paul Jones via submission with the head vice at 1:58
    - WWF Tag Team Champions the Quebecars (w/ Johnny Polo) defeated Paul Jones & Chaz Ware at 1:47 when Pierre pinned Ware following the Tower of Quebec; after the bout, the champions hit the Boston Crab / legdrop combo on Jones
  • The Renegade - had one match in WWF in 8/8/93 with The Brooklyn Brawler defeating Rio Lord of the Jungle
  • Buzz Tyler - would be on St Louis shows but nothing
  • Bobby Jaggers - jobbed twice around Halloween 1989 (HBK, Rockers)
  • Steve Casey - jobbed for the Brooklyn Brawler as part of the Rampage 91 tour, and then came back in 1997 to lose to Jerry Lynn and Scott Putski. How very, very random.
Guys who Did have a few WWF matches :
  • Brad Armstrong -wrestled Eric Perez (aka Eric Escobar) on ECW House shows for Oct/Nov 2006
  • Buff Bagwell - infamous Buff/Booker T matches (there were two!)
  • David Flair - had a singles match with Undertaker, but also did some house shows
  • Jerry Flynn - June/July 1995 jobbed to Jean Pierre, MOM, The Roadie, Kama, Rad Radford (someone had to), Waylon Mercy and Henry Godwinn
  • Jeff Sword - jobbed to Jim Duggan, Tugboat, The Big Bossman and the Rockers in 1990/1991
  • Brad Anderson - had at least 6 matches as a jobber in 1998, 1994 and as late as 1999 (vs Meat~!)
  • Scott Armstrong - besides his run as a ref (and commentator), he did have the one match with CM Punk!
  • Rip Rogers - did job twice in 1995 to Adam Bomb and the Smoking Gunns; wasn't he also a OVW trainer?
  • Joe Gomez - put over the Wild Samoans, the Iron Sheik and Salvatore Bellomo back in 1984 and re-emerged in 1996 to job for the Godwinns
  • Lenny Lane - Ab cream extraordinare jobbed in 2000 (Sho Funaki), 2002 beat Bull & Doug Basham (with Mark Jindrak), Paul London beat him in 2004, Tomko killed him in 2004, La Resitance beat Mr Anderson & Lenny Lane in 2004 and in 2008 Jack Swagger beat him up.
* Abdullah the Butcher: didn't have any 1970s-2010s WWF matches

Closest thing I noticed was:
Pittsburgh, PA - Civic Arena - November 10, 1972
Manuel Soto fought Johnny DeFazio to a draw
Larry Zbyzsko defeated Killer Lopez
Eric the Red defeated Frank Holtz
Luis Martinez defeated Frank Durso
Prof. Toru Tanaka defeated Victor Rivera
Baron Mikel Scicluna defeated the Executioner
Tony Parisi defeated Abdullah the Butcher via count-out
Bruno Sammartino & Dominic DeNucci defeated the Fargo Brothers via disqualification

* The Great Muta: There was a couple WWF/NJPW shows in Jan 1985 he was on... but that's still a stretch...

WWF / NJPW @ Tokyo, Japan - Korakuen Hall - January 1, 1985 (3,000; sell out)
Naoki Sano defeated Keiji Muto via submission with an arm lock
Hirokazu Hata defeated Shinya Hashimoto via submission with a triangle choke
Makoto Arakawa pinned Kim Su Hong
Black Tiger & David Morgan defeated Shunji Kosugi & Keiichi Yamada when Tiger pinned Yamada
Anoaro Atisanoe pinned Tatsutoshi Goto
Tiger Toguchi pinned Kerry Brown
Hiro Saito & Umanosuke Ueda fought WWF Jr. Heavyweight Champion the Cobra & Kantaro Hoshino to a double count-out
The Strong Machines (w/ Ichimasa Wakamatsu) defeated Seiji Sakaguchi & Kengo Kimura when Kimura was pinned following a lariat; the Machines were not the usual pair; the original duo appeared during the contest
WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan & Samula fought Antonio Inoki & Tatsumi Fujinami to a double disqualification when the four Strong Machines interfered and attacked both teams

WWF / NJPW @ Fujiyoshiwara, Japan - January 4, 1985 (3,200)
Keiji Muto defeated Shinya Hashimoto via submission with a triangle choke
Makoto Arakawa pinned Naoki Sano
David Morgan pinned Keiichi Yamada
Anoaro Atisanoe & Samula defeated Shunji Kosugi & Kim Su Hong when Atisanoe pinned Hong
The Cobra fought the Black Tiger to a double count-out
The Strong Machines defeated Kengo Kimura & Tatsutoshi Goto when #1 pinned Goto
Umanosuke Ueda & Hiro Saito defeated Seiji Sakaguchi & Tiger Toguchi via disqualification
WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan, King Kong Bundy & Kerry Brown defeated IWGP Champion Antonio Inoki, Tatsumi Fujinami & Kantaro Hoshino when Bundy pinned Hoshino; after the bout, Hogan and Bundy fought each other (Bundy's New Japan debut)

* Jushin Liger: closest thing was a WWF/NJ/AJ Summit in 1990

WWF / New Japan / All Japan Wrestling Summit @ Tokyo, Japan - Tokyo Dome - April 13, 1990 (53,742)
Dan Kroffat, Joe Malenko, & Doug Furnas defeated Samson Fuyuki, Toshiaki Kawada, & Tatsumi Kitihara when Kroffat pinned Kitahara with a Tiger Driver at 11:56
Jushin Liger pinned Akira Nogami with a moonsault press at 8:37
Jimmy Snuka & Tito Santana defeated Masa Fuchi & Kenta Kobashi at 8:28 when Snuka pinned Fuchi with the splash off the top following the flying forearm and a bodyslam from Santana, with Santana hitting the flying forearm on Kobashi when he attempted to break the cover; Fuchi & Kobashi used Kenny Loggins' "Highway to the Danger Zone" as their entrance music; Shane McMahon was the referee for the bout
Tiger Mask II fought Bret Hart to a 20-minute time-limit draw; the bell rang as Tiger Mask ducked a clothesline and covered Hart with a crossbody
The Great Kabuki pinned Greg Valentine with a modified inside cradle at 7:16 as Valentine attempted to apply the figure-4; Valentine came to the ring in his Rythem & Blues attire and used Roxette's "She's Got the Look" as his entrance music; Shane McMahon was the referee for the bout
Jake Roberts pinned the Big Bossman with the DDT at 10:25 after floating over a bodyslam attempt; Bossman came to the ring to his babyface entrance music but played the heel in the match; after the contest, Jake briefly covered Bossman with Damien before leaving the ring; Earl Hebner was the referee for the bout
IWGP Tag Team Champions Masa Saito & Shinya Hashimoto defeated Riki Choshu & Masa Chono when Saito pinned Chono following a backdrop suplex
Jumbo Tsuruta & Haku defeated Mr. Perfect & Rick Martel at 10:53 when Tsuruta pinned Martel with a running kneelift and a back suplex; Haku was referred to as King Haku during the bout
Genichiro Tenryu pinned Randy Savage (w/ Sensational Sherri) with an enzuiguri and powerbomb at 10:49 after Savage injured his knee attempting a flying crossbody
WWF World Champion the Ultimate Warrior pinned Ted Dibiase with a flying clothesline and the splash at 6:11; Earl Hebner was the referee for the bout (World Tour 90)
Giant Baba & Andre the Giant defeated WWF Tag Team Champions Demolition in a non-title match when Andre pinned Smash with an elbowdrop following a kick to the chest by Baba at 6:39
Hulk Hogan pinned Stan Hansen with the axe bomber at 12:32 after a boot to the face; as he made his way into the ring, Hansen knocked down ring announcer Mel Phillips as Phillips introduced him; Earl Hebner was the referee for the bout (Hulkamania 6)

* Ice Train: yeah, he had at least 99 WCW matches (1993-1994, 1996-1997 and again 2000-2001) but nothing WWF-esque.

* Jimmy Garvin: There are a few times he was cards with WWF guys, but not true WWF events...

WWF / International @ Montreal, Quebec - Forum - August 26, 1985
Mad Dog Lefebvre defeated Rick McGraw
Gino Brito Jr. defeated Tito Senza
Bob Orton Jr. defeated Armand Rougeau
Ricky Steamboat defeated Don Muraco
Ivan Putski defeated Richard Charland
Jos LeDuc defeated George Wells
Jacques & Raymond Rougeau defeated Jim & Ron Garvin
Dino Bravo & King Tonga defeated Nikolai Volkoff & the Iron Sheik

Miami, FL - September 29, 1982
WWF World Champion Bob Backlund defeated Jim Garvin

WWF @ Springfield, IL - Convention Center - October 26, 1992 (4,500; 3,300 paid)
Included an untelevised podium interview with Jimmy Garvin who insulted Randy Savage & the Ultimate Warrior and predicted all the heels to win at Survivor Series

ROB FULLER

WWWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - April 29, 1974
Televised on HBO - included Vince McMahon on commentary:
Jose Gonzalez fought Larry Zbyzsko to a draw
Robert Fuller defeated Ed Sullivan at 10:39
Tony Garea defeated Mike Conrad at 17:09
Nikolai Volkoff defeated Dean Ho at 5:22
Pedro Morales pinned Mr. Fuji at 10:29 with two bodyslams after Fuji failed a splash off the top
Chief Jay Strongbow & Andre the Giant defeated Otto Von Heller & Don Leo Jonathan in a Best 2 out of 3 falls match, 2-0
WWWF World Champion Bruno Sammartino (w/ Arnold Skaaland) fought Killer Kowalski to a no contest at 24:15 when the two men began brawling around the ring after the champion began bleeding from the face; after the bout, Chief Jay Strongbow, Pedro Morales, and another wrestler pulled the two men apart (Bruno Sammartino: Wrestling's Living Legend, The History of the WWE Heavyweight Championship)
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