Warehouse 13 season finale - the loooong version
I needed to let out all my thoughts about the finale and this happened. I can't believe how long it got...
( Prepare for brain vomit and picspam (gee, that sounds pleasant...) )
( Prepare for brain vomit and picspam (gee, that sounds pleasant...) )
I think the fallibility and moral ambiguity of the Regent's decisions and existence is a great thing to explore more. I'm glad that Sykes actually had some good points there. Since the Regent's first appearance in that diner, it's been highlighted that they are just regular, everyday people - and how does anyone "normal" cope with the responsibilities and temptations of all those artifacts?
Don't get me wrong - I'm appalled on HG's behalf at their solution of "Emily Lake". I think their blinkered attitude in not helping HG recover, mentally and emotionally, and actually doing the opposite and allowing her (and still many others) stew in their own bronze-y thoughts, immoblile for centuries is pretty evil (and I don't use that term lightly). They actually created HG's Fork Incident, in my mind, by only seeing HG as something to use or contain, and not the wounded and damaged person she was, who needed compassion and help.
But I appreciate the contradictions and grey areas of it all. It makes for wrenching viewing. I kinda love to somewhat hate them.
(Assuming HG is around - and I do - I look forward to HG trying to head off Claudia's current plight: Getting obsessive about using artifacts to bring back a murdered loved one. Been there, done that).
I'm still confused about Emily. I have to go back and really listen to Kosan's explanation (and stop staring at JM's lips). But my understanding is, it's not someone else using HG's body, but HG herself - her past was simply removed and replaced with false memories. Her life split in two from the moment the coin was used.
But that irks me - cause I believe that despite being told she was an American and loved cats and whatever else - Emily would still posses the core of HG's character. Yet Emily had little of HG's spine, courage and resourcefulness (that we saw) and that was disturbing. Her British accent doesn't make HG who she is! Is that really the life HG would have made for herself, if she started from scratch? I know Emily was amusing, but that really bothers me, even from the first time I watched it.
The Janus coin showing Myka all three times (and the obsessiveness of this fandom is wonderful). That is amazing. That was planned, and not incidental, so that's how the show itself sees them. That's Soulmate material right there.
"I believed in you and I was right."
That is so...*sigh* For Myka, who left cause she couldn't trust her instincts anymore - what a big effin' deal for her to know that now, much less for HG to hear it. *claspsittochest*
Again with the obsessive fandom lol... "I...(love you)". Fucking awesome. That is all.
I've yammered on already elsewhere why I'm convinced HG will return, so I'll spare you...But regarding how "dark" the show has gotten? I'm not worried there, either. They've always alternated comic and serious epis. If you remember Xena, they swung wildly from outright farce to incredibly morbid and bloody stories. So it can certainly be done...
But. Geez. It's a long wait till S4, man....
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And you're right about Emily, we didn't see much of her so there's no way of knowing what she was really like. She must've had some spunk in her to threaten Myka and Pete with that knife.
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I've just posted my meagre thoughts on the episode, nowehere near as impressive as your epic, but I have to say I thought the looks and the intensity these ladies shared, to me anyway, was just as expressive as a hug or a kiss... despite saying that, it still would have been nice to see though!
Basically, it's a long time since I cared enough to get up in the middle of the night to see something like this live and it certainly did not disappoint.
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I actually saw your post and was going to reply to it. And I think I'll go and do that now.
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It's not the fact that the regents are fallible that bugs me, I prefer people being fallible. But that they really don't explore it very well in the show. Anyone who ever addresses it either forgets about it the next minute or is depicted as evil. That's what drives me crazy and makes me hate them so much. I'll never forget the moment Pete and Myka in 'Time Will Tell' found out from HG what the bronzing really is. They looked shocked for a second, asked Artie if he knew, Artie said that he did, and that was that. It was never talked about again. If Claudia now after calling Jane on their bs is shown going off the deep end and becoming 'bad' it all will just continue the same.
I look forward to HG trying to head off Claudia's current plight
I would love to see that. Those two have not interacted enough on screen.
I'm still confused about Emily.
I'm trying not to be confused about her and that's why I'm over-simplifying her existence. I prefer not to start thinking about what makes a person a person and all that in this context. But you're right, if she was indeed meant to still be HG, just without her memories, then it was a big fail.
The Janus Coin is absolutely fantastic. I love that they did it on purpose, that they put Myka in the 'lovers' category too knowing that we would see it. The episodes as a whole were so full of Myka/HG I can't help but adore the people who broke my heart for giving it all to us knowing what we would see. The whole thing really does scream 'soulmate' if anything does.
"I believed in you and I was right."
I'm also clasping this to my chest and will keep it there forever. That scene is like the explanation to why I love these two so much. It just says it all.
Again with the obsessive fandom lol... "I...(love you)". Fucking awesome. That is all.
lol, I was staring a gif on tumblr yesterday morning and my still sleepy brain simply saw it there. I love obsessive fandoms and these episodes are gold for that.
I'm glad you're convinced HG will be back. I want to be too but I can't, just as I couldn't let myself hope before the finale. But needless to say nothing would make me happier than seeing them bring her back. I'd even give up the spin-off for that, can't help it.
Regarding the 'dark' thing... I think me seeing it as too dark now is entirely because they killed HG. I can't bear the thought of Myka just going on like nothing happened. It's like how Pete was in 3x01 when Myka was gone, he just wasn't the same. And the pessimist in me doesn't believe they would treat this situation the same. So basically I'm selfish and want her back or I'll never watch you again, show. The death of Xena or Gabrielle in Xena is what I want it to be treated as.
And there I went with the yammering too. It's going to be so long until I can stop thinking about all of this. Most likely till s4.
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I'm not so sure they won't be calling the Regents out about it. I think that might change. Seems this is all a set up towards that end, to me.
I'm also not feeling they will be making Claudia all Dark Willow, either, to negate her vaild points. I think her snark about "arbitrary rules" is just the first volley of them going there (well, the 2nd. C's verbal smack down of Jane was the first lol). Since Jane did live, I expect her decisions will continue to be questioned, with the extra added personalized angsty goodness that questioning, say, Kosan wouldn't lend.
Guess we'll see. :)
Re: "I...(love you)" I saw someone on AfterEllen (I think) talking about that scene, and said the caption/subtitle said that HG was saying "yes" instead of "I..". So I looked back and I can see that, too. My freaking head is spinning. :b
Those commentators were speculating that her "yes" was in response to Myka's silent, loving looks... What do you think? (Knowing captions can be bizarrely off track sometimes!) Not to mess with your conclusion, which I LOVE.
I can't bear the thought of Myka just going on like nothing happened.
That's one of the "facts" in my pocket of optimism that this will shake out well, after all! Cause they've already gone there with the guilt, regret and PTSD over Sam's death, and no one want that to be Myka's next arc. Again. And after practically the whole finale being about the Epic Maintext of Their LOVE, having Myka just tra-la-la about it doesn't seem to be an option. So. They have to fix it. Right?
Oh, look. I've yammered back. :)
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There's been a lot of talk about the last scene between Myka and HG, what was said and what wasn't. I don't understand it because it all seems so clear to me. But I did see a post about the caption on tumblr and my understanding was that it was for when she mouthed "thank you". I've never seen anyone mention any caption for the bit in the gif above. I can understand seeing something else in the "thank you" bit because when I was watching the ep for the first time I thought she said "yes" too. But after seeing the gifs made from it all I see is "thank you". Now when it comes to the bit in the gif above where I see her say "I..." my brain tells me she's just smiling. But like I said I got an epiphany (lol) in a sleepy state and suddenly she was saying "I..." instead. And that's what I choose to see.
And the optimism... The fact that Myka's already went through all that crap with Sam just recently actually was one of my straws to grasp when I dared hope they wouldn't kill HG. I too thought that it would be stupid to have her go through that again because it's all been done. But... I am a pessimist and I don't trust tptb to treat Myka/HG in that sense officially. I want to believe that what I saw was what they wanted everyone to see. But subtext... as long as no one says it that's what it officially is. Damn, I don't want to be such a downer. I'm going to hope that she will be back. I am. They can fix it if they just want to.
And here endeth the yammering once more ;)
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LMAO. Yeah, what do you think about that???
You don't have to do a tumblr "mea culpa" unless you want to, tho... I won't out you. ;)
At least the looks cannot ever be disputed, eh?
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