HPDH - There's a Post with Alleged Spoilers Out There Now...
So, there is a huge post in HP theories with tons of alleged spoilers from someone who claims to have read the book. Click on this link and they will be staring you in the face, so do so at your own risk. I’m not sure yet whether I believe this person has actually read the book or not.
And just to make it even more difficult for you to claim I spoiled you, the spoilers I am discussing here and my comments on them are whited out below. Also, this is very, very long and I even left tons of it out.
Read at your own risk! Read any comments to this entry at your own risk, as well.
- One recurring character dies pretty early on in the book. I rather liked him/her, but I'm not sure what the general opinion around here is.
My first thought was Lupin. I’m not so sure about that now. It’s obviously not Harry, Ginny, Ron or Hermione. It would be too early in the book for that and I don’t think any of them will die permanently, anyway. There are so many characters it could be.
- The last chapter is called "Grey Faces" and is presented in the form of an article in a certain wizardly publication written by a certain over-the-top character associated with said publication :)
My Guess: Luna Lovegood writing for the Quibbler. IMO that’s pretty obvious. Second guess would of course be Rita Skeeter and since our spoiler provider makes it fairly clear it’s not the Daily Prophet, if it’s Skeeter it’s also the Quibbler or maybe Witch Weekly. But I’d be really shocked if it wasn’t Luna.
- The direction Snape's storyline heads isn't what anybody expected. Well, I didn't, at least. I read lots of theories and it seems like most people will be surprised, too.
Wheeeeee! Oh wow do I love that. I hope Snape blows all the theories kabloeeey!!!!
- The much-speculated-about "student who becomes a teacher" does not become the Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher.
Eh, Neville, Herbology. I’d put money on it.
Who wins, Harry or Voldy?
I obviously can't answer that, but I'll tell you this: it's not anywhere near that simple.
Interesting ... May give some credence to some of the Harry going beyond the veil and coming back theories.
Is the location on the US cover one of the places we've only heard of before?
I'll tell you this: the readers have never (figuratively) been there. That doesn't mean it has or hasn't been mentioned before.
I think that pretty well nails it down to Godric’s Hollow, yeah?
Is the location on the UK (front) cover one of the places we've only heard of before? Or have we been to this one?
Sort of both. I hope that's not too big a spoiler.
A part of Gringott’s we haven’t seen yet, probably.
And now you've mentioned the poem...are there really things in the books actually referred to as "Deathly Hallows"?
Yep.
Founder’s relics champions, I think you are spot on...
What are the Deathly Hallows?
You're not going to find out from me. If you want a little bit of a hint, you might want to check out what the book is being titled in other languages.
Any one know? I haven’t heard yet.
Is this still the case?
Most of the romances that have been built up in previous books continue on in this one. They don't just drop off the face of the earth. That doesn't mean they all work out, though.
Part of this question is missing. Ginny and Harry/Ginny haters, STFU. You don’t get your wish, sorry. H/Hr shippers, you don’t get yours, either. This is another thing I’ll put money on. I think it’s Lupin/Tonks that doesn’t work out. But boy is this question/answer going to cause Harmoanian wank on Portkey and other wank forums. Heeeeeee!!!!
Do we get to see the following in any form - Sirius? Dumbledore? James& Lily?
That's going a little too far.
I’m guessing yes, and that it’s something of a Maurader reunion. (Yes, I’m predicting Lupin dies in this book, which makes me sad but ... I just kind of see it happening.
Do we have any weddings in the book - and if so, how many?
There are weddings, but I'm not saying how many. Also, that doesn't mean that the reader actually gets to attend any of them.
Note the plural!!! Joy!!!!
Are there any new romances that pop up?
Not really any that haven't been at least hinted at in previous books.
:)
If you've seen the ending, can you feel sadness for Harry or glory?
That would say a little too much about the ending, I'm afraid. I'll say this, though: it's really, really good. I know it's natural to assume it will be underwhelming, but it's not. It's perfect.
Gah! I want to read it now!!!!
Do Snape and Malfoy have significant roles in the book?
Important but not large.
And ... the Slytherfen will be wanking mightly that the entire book’s not about Draco. Heee!
Are Luna and Neville more prominent in this book than in book 6?
I think so.
Joy!!!!
I have a question: are any of the characters we know going to betray Harry and the rest?
I'm not going to talk about betrayal, but a few characters definitely have allegiances and motivations that will surprise a lot of people.
I’m guessing Snape is going to surprise people, but I hope that includes some other characters. It would rock my world if Hermione were one of them, because it might make me like her again.
Is there a proper "whodunnit", or at least "who is it" mystery?
You're in for a real treat.
... Interesting!!
How many deaths?
Not as many as people seem to think. The book is dark, definitely the most grim book in the series, but it's not some kind of slaughter-fest like the majority of people seem to have gotten into their heads. There are deaths on both sides, but none of it is random. Each death happens for a reason and each one is part of the plot. It's not like the Death Eaters storm the Burrow and gut Ginny just to make the book "mature" or something. That doesn't happen, just to be clear.
Bwahahahahahahahahaha! Oh, see, all the times people on F-W start into the “bring on the bloodbath!!! I want everyone to die!!!” bit, I get my hackles up. I can’t tell you how happy I would be if this is true and they are bitterly disappointed. Wheeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is something left unanswered at the end of the book that you think should have been answered?
Every mystery from previous books that I can think of was resolved. However, there are a few intriguing little mysteries introduced near the end that aren't answered. Don't be mad! It's actually really cool. It basically gives the reader the sense that one adventure is over, but in no time another one will begin. Plenty of fan-fiction material, I guess.
Eh, that’s okay and not okay to me. I want it to be impossible for certain romantic things to happen, but I don’t mind if Harry and Ginny leave everyone and go have adventures. In fact, I think that would be pretty awesome, and if she leaves the future open to that, I might even write some for them.
Which character is developed best in book 7, without spoiling too much.
Harry.
Yes!!! The Harry Potter books are still about Harry Potter!!!!
Can you give some teasers concerning Malfoy, and possible the Weasley family as well?
Malfoy spends some time with the Death Eaters during which he observes some pretty bizarre things. The Weasleys...well, they have a very heart-warming ending.
:)
can you tell me if snape appears a lot in deathly hallows?
Not a lot, sorry.
Cue the Snape wank in 3... 2... 1!!!!
can his loyalties be narrowed down to the "he's a good guy" or "he's a bad guy" roles or is it more complicated than that?
The latter.
heh
Did DD get it right about the horcruxes? Number and nature?
Some.
Ohhhh! Interesting. Harrycrux fans will like this answer.
Do we see Terry Boot again?
I don't know who that is.
*snerk* Question must have been from a Cassie Claire fan.
Was the ?awful boy? Petunia mentioned James?
Hate to shoot down a theory, but this isn't addressed again, so it seems it was.
I’m glad to have that resolved, though I think Snape/Petunia could have been hella funny.
Have you read many theories on DH? Have some things been correctly guessed at? Has anyone guessed the end? Or are we in for major surprises?
Yes, yes, not as far as I know, yes.
:)
Is Mcgonagall a Death Eater?
...no.
Darn! I really had hoped she was and was grooming Hermione to be one. Just for the lulz. ;)
Are the Deathly Hallows linked to the afterlife for wizards?
It has the word "death" in it, and it's a book about wizards. I'd say you're on to something!
Okay, that I think is a pretty huge spoiler, especially since another spoiler in with these is that Harry goes to Hogwarts specifically to go to the library.
Do Ron and/or Hermione somehow sacrifice themselves so Harry could kill Voldemort? Is that the reason both of them aren't with Harry in the US Cover?
Sorry, but that's spoiler territory.
*cough*
Mmmm hmmmm. Remember in book 1, Ron sacrifices himself (but does not die) so Harry can go on, and then Hermione makes a sacrifice of sorts and goes back, letting Harry go on, because there is only one hero in this book and he alone faces Voldemort.... heh, arc theory here we come!!!
Will Voldemort turn good in the end? Does Harry's 'love' make him switch sides?
That would be quite lame, in my humble opinion.
ITA
Do we see anything about that in Book 7? And if so, is it something like the Bat-Bogey Hex, or something else entirely?
There's a lot about Ginny you don't know.
Squeeeeeeee!!!!!
Does Ginny play a prominent role in the book? Does she come along on any adventures for horcruxes, for example?
Some.
Squeeeeee!!!!!
Was the 'gleam of triumph' in Dumbledore's eyes at the end of Goblet of Fire, very important in Deathly Hallows?
Ooh. I'd forgotten about that. Yes! That's a pretty big hint that I, personally, totally missed.
Another very interesting, but not necessarily surprising answer.
Does the book at least address all the strange refrences between snape and lily? if not unrequited love is there at least a twist to these clues?
Yes.
Eh. I hope this is something good. I’m a little nervous about it.
Any comment on that?
Sorry, but you're on the wrong track. Petunia's secret has to do with something that she did for several years that she has tried to cover up, but that ultimately ends up seeing the light of day. The fallout changes her relationship with most other characters, to say the least.
Hmmmmmmm
So by this, do you mean four deaths all in all, or just on the good guy side?
Whoops. Yeah, I should have thought about that question more thoroughly. Four sympathetic characters.
:(
Okay, my guesses: Lupin and/or Tonks, Percy (if any Weasley dies at all, I’m now less sure about that) , at least one teacher (First guess Hagrid. Then McG or Flitwick or Trelawney), one other Order member.
Maybe it wouldn't be too much of a spoiler then to tell us if either the new Transfig. or DADA teacher has a significant role to play?
It's not like they would close down Hogwarts forever. There is a new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher appointed eventually, but I'm still not saying if it happens before the epilogue. Also, here's a new bit: there's at least one new teacher who joins the staff (at some point) in a position that was firmly occupied at the end of book six.
Yeah, I reckon McG or Flitwick or Hagrid dies. Most likely Hagrid.
Would it be a spoiler if you told me how she's proven this?
Ginny has certain...unique features that make her vitally important to the plot. It seems to me that she was basically included in the series specifically for this purpose. I'm going to push it here and tell you that she forms a metaphorical kind of triangle with Harry and Voldemort. Exactly what that means could probably be partially figured out by reading all the "heart-to-heart" conversations Harry has with Dumbledore throughout the series.
Heee! The Love Connection. Also, keep in mind she and Voldemort have their own connection. I am just overjoyed if this spoiler is true!!!
Do more good people die then the bad?
No.
:)
Would it be reasonable to assume that one of the lesser talked about teachers like Professor Sprout, Professor Binns or Professor Flitwick will have some sort of a pominent role in the book?
Professor Binns is one of the only beings at Hogwarts for the first part of Harry's stay there, and because of that his prominence is greater than it has ever been before.
Ah, okay. So we start out with Hogwarts closed and it later reopens. And Harry is just palling around with various ghosts when he goes back to use the library. ... Heee! See what I’ve put at the end!!!
Does the trophy room in hogwarts have any special meaning in this book?
It turns out that "trophy room" was actually Hogwarts slang for "den of love." Let's just say that when the movie rolls around, it might have to be NC-17.
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Ginny... would you say she is relatively important to the plot as a whole, or still just simply a side-character?
Very important in a totally new way.
Squeeee!!!!
new HB and HG maybe?
Maybe.
I don’t understand that question.
JOOOOOYYYYYY
Harry, at the library, alone ---- Yess!! Because yes, he was alone looking for a book in PS/SS and yes, the arc theory is all the heck through this! I’m going to analyze it more for that, later, though. Boy OMG that makes me so happy!!!!!
Wow, that was long, and I even left a ton of it out. These feel fairly accurate to me in places. In others, I'm not sure. And I think a lot of it ... well, any of us could predict that the Snape subplot would be "complicated" and we'd likely be right, yeah? But there are some really specific answers in there that it'll be very interesting to find out if they're right. (Sentence structure -- apologies to you for torturing you!) So, while I'm squeeing over a lot of this, I'm keeping in mind a lot of it may just be hokum.
And just to make it even more difficult for you to claim I spoiled you, the spoilers I am discussing here and my comments on them are whited out below. Also, this is very, very long and I even left tons of it out.
Read at your own risk! Read any comments to this entry at your own risk, as well.
- One recurring character dies pretty early on in the book. I rather liked him/her, but I'm not sure what the general opinion around here is.
My first thought was Lupin. I’m not so sure about that now. It’s obviously not Harry, Ginny, Ron or Hermione. It would be too early in the book for that and I don’t think any of them will die permanently, anyway. There are so many characters it could be.
- The last chapter is called "Grey Faces" and is presented in the form of an article in a certain wizardly publication written by a certain over-the-top character associated with said publication :)
My Guess: Luna Lovegood writing for the Quibbler. IMO that’s pretty obvious. Second guess would of course be Rita Skeeter and since our spoiler provider makes it fairly clear it’s not the Daily Prophet, if it’s Skeeter it’s also the Quibbler or maybe Witch Weekly. But I’d be really shocked if it wasn’t Luna.
- The direction Snape's storyline heads isn't what anybody expected. Well, I didn't, at least. I read lots of theories and it seems like most people will be surprised, too.
Wheeeeee! Oh wow do I love that. I hope Snape blows all the theories kabloeeey!!!!
- The much-speculated-about "student who becomes a teacher" does not become the Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher.
Eh, Neville, Herbology. I’d put money on it.
Who wins, Harry or Voldy?
I obviously can't answer that, but I'll tell you this: it's not anywhere near that simple.
Interesting ... May give some credence to some of the Harry going beyond the veil and coming back theories.
Is the location on the US cover one of the places we've only heard of before?
I'll tell you this: the readers have never (figuratively) been there. That doesn't mean it has or hasn't been mentioned before.
I think that pretty well nails it down to Godric’s Hollow, yeah?
Is the location on the UK (front) cover one of the places we've only heard of before? Or have we been to this one?
Sort of both. I hope that's not too big a spoiler.
A part of Gringott’s we haven’t seen yet, probably.
And now you've mentioned the poem...are there really things in the books actually referred to as "Deathly Hallows"?
Yep.
Founder’s relics champions, I think you are spot on...
What are the Deathly Hallows?
You're not going to find out from me. If you want a little bit of a hint, you might want to check out what the book is being titled in other languages.
Any one know? I haven’t heard yet.
Is this still the case?
Most of the romances that have been built up in previous books continue on in this one. They don't just drop off the face of the earth. That doesn't mean they all work out, though.
Part of this question is missing. Ginny and Harry/Ginny haters, STFU. You don’t get your wish, sorry. H/Hr shippers, you don’t get yours, either. This is another thing I’ll put money on. I think it’s Lupin/Tonks that doesn’t work out. But boy is this question/answer going to cause Harmoanian wank on Portkey and other wank forums. Heeeeeee!!!!
Do we get to see the following in any form - Sirius? Dumbledore? James& Lily?
That's going a little too far.
I’m guessing yes, and that it’s something of a Maurader reunion. (Yes, I’m predicting Lupin dies in this book, which makes me sad but ... I just kind of see it happening.
Do we have any weddings in the book - and if so, how many?
There are weddings, but I'm not saying how many. Also, that doesn't mean that the reader actually gets to attend any of them.
Note the plural!!! Joy!!!!
Are there any new romances that pop up?
Not really any that haven't been at least hinted at in previous books.
:)
If you've seen the ending, can you feel sadness for Harry or glory?
That would say a little too much about the ending, I'm afraid. I'll say this, though: it's really, really good. I know it's natural to assume it will be underwhelming, but it's not. It's perfect.
Gah! I want to read it now!!!!
Do Snape and Malfoy have significant roles in the book?
Important but not large.
And ... the Slytherfen will be wanking mightly that the entire book’s not about Draco. Heee!
Are Luna and Neville more prominent in this book than in book 6?
I think so.
Joy!!!!
I have a question: are any of the characters we know going to betray Harry and the rest?
I'm not going to talk about betrayal, but a few characters definitely have allegiances and motivations that will surprise a lot of people.
I’m guessing Snape is going to surprise people, but I hope that includes some other characters. It would rock my world if Hermione were one of them, because it might make me like her again.
Is there a proper "whodunnit", or at least "who is it" mystery?
You're in for a real treat.
... Interesting!!
How many deaths?
Not as many as people seem to think. The book is dark, definitely the most grim book in the series, but it's not some kind of slaughter-fest like the majority of people seem to have gotten into their heads. There are deaths on both sides, but none of it is random. Each death happens for a reason and each one is part of the plot. It's not like the Death Eaters storm the Burrow and gut Ginny just to make the book "mature" or something. That doesn't happen, just to be clear.
Bwahahahahahahahahaha! Oh, see, all the times people on F-W start into the “bring on the bloodbath!!! I want everyone to die!!!” bit, I get my hackles up. I can’t tell you how happy I would be if this is true and they are bitterly disappointed. Wheeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is something left unanswered at the end of the book that you think should have been answered?
Every mystery from previous books that I can think of was resolved. However, there are a few intriguing little mysteries introduced near the end that aren't answered. Don't be mad! It's actually really cool. It basically gives the reader the sense that one adventure is over, but in no time another one will begin. Plenty of fan-fiction material, I guess.
Eh, that’s okay and not okay to me. I want it to be impossible for certain romantic things to happen, but I don’t mind if Harry and Ginny leave everyone and go have adventures. In fact, I think that would be pretty awesome, and if she leaves the future open to that, I might even write some for them.
Which character is developed best in book 7, without spoiling too much.
Harry.
Yes!!! The Harry Potter books are still about Harry Potter!!!!
Can you give some teasers concerning Malfoy, and possible the Weasley family as well?
Malfoy spends some time with the Death Eaters during which he observes some pretty bizarre things. The Weasleys...well, they have a very heart-warming ending.
:)
can you tell me if snape appears a lot in deathly hallows?
Not a lot, sorry.
Cue the Snape wank in 3... 2... 1!!!!
can his loyalties be narrowed down to the "he's a good guy" or "he's a bad guy" roles or is it more complicated than that?
The latter.
heh
Did DD get it right about the horcruxes? Number and nature?
Some.
Ohhhh! Interesting. Harrycrux fans will like this answer.
Do we see Terry Boot again?
I don't know who that is.
*snerk* Question must have been from a Cassie Claire fan.
Was the ?awful boy? Petunia mentioned James?
Hate to shoot down a theory, but this isn't addressed again, so it seems it was.
I’m glad to have that resolved, though I think Snape/Petunia could have been hella funny.
Have you read many theories on DH? Have some things been correctly guessed at? Has anyone guessed the end? Or are we in for major surprises?
Yes, yes, not as far as I know, yes.
:)
Is Mcgonagall a Death Eater?
...no.
Darn! I really had hoped she was and was grooming Hermione to be one. Just for the lulz. ;)
Are the Deathly Hallows linked to the afterlife for wizards?
It has the word "death" in it, and it's a book about wizards. I'd say you're on to something!
Okay, that I think is a pretty huge spoiler, especially since another spoiler in with these is that Harry goes to Hogwarts specifically to go to the library.
Do Ron and/or Hermione somehow sacrifice themselves so Harry could kill Voldemort? Is that the reason both of them aren't with Harry in the US Cover?
Sorry, but that's spoiler territory.
*cough*
Mmmm hmmmm. Remember in book 1, Ron sacrifices himself (but does not die) so Harry can go on, and then Hermione makes a sacrifice of sorts and goes back, letting Harry go on, because there is only one hero in this book and he alone faces Voldemort.... heh, arc theory here we come!!!
Will Voldemort turn good in the end? Does Harry's 'love' make him switch sides?
That would be quite lame, in my humble opinion.
ITA
Do we see anything about that in Book 7? And if so, is it something like the Bat-Bogey Hex, or something else entirely?
There's a lot about Ginny you don't know.
Squeeeeeeee!!!!!
Does Ginny play a prominent role in the book? Does she come along on any adventures for horcruxes, for example?
Some.
Squeeeeee!!!!!
Was the 'gleam of triumph' in Dumbledore's eyes at the end of Goblet of Fire, very important in Deathly Hallows?
Ooh. I'd forgotten about that. Yes! That's a pretty big hint that I, personally, totally missed.
Another very interesting, but not necessarily surprising answer.
Does the book at least address all the strange refrences between snape and lily? if not unrequited love is there at least a twist to these clues?
Yes.
Eh. I hope this is something good. I’m a little nervous about it.
Any comment on that?
Sorry, but you're on the wrong track. Petunia's secret has to do with something that she did for several years that she has tried to cover up, but that ultimately ends up seeing the light of day. The fallout changes her relationship with most other characters, to say the least.
Hmmmmmmm
So by this, do you mean four deaths all in all, or just on the good guy side?
Whoops. Yeah, I should have thought about that question more thoroughly. Four sympathetic characters.
:(
Okay, my guesses: Lupin and/or Tonks, Percy (if any Weasley dies at all, I’m now less sure about that) , at least one teacher (First guess Hagrid. Then McG or Flitwick or Trelawney), one other Order member.
Maybe it wouldn't be too much of a spoiler then to tell us if either the new Transfig. or DADA teacher has a significant role to play?
It's not like they would close down Hogwarts forever. There is a new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher appointed eventually, but I'm still not saying if it happens before the epilogue. Also, here's a new bit: there's at least one new teacher who joins the staff (at some point) in a position that was firmly occupied at the end of book six.
Yeah, I reckon McG or Flitwick or Hagrid dies. Most likely Hagrid.
Would it be a spoiler if you told me how she's proven this?
Ginny has certain...unique features that make her vitally important to the plot. It seems to me that she was basically included in the series specifically for this purpose. I'm going to push it here and tell you that she forms a metaphorical kind of triangle with Harry and Voldemort. Exactly what that means could probably be partially figured out by reading all the "heart-to-heart" conversations Harry has with Dumbledore throughout the series.
Heee! The Love Connection. Also, keep in mind she and Voldemort have their own connection. I am just overjoyed if this spoiler is true!!!
Do more good people die then the bad?
No.
:)
Would it be reasonable to assume that one of the lesser talked about teachers like Professor Sprout, Professor Binns or Professor Flitwick will have some sort of a pominent role in the book?
Professor Binns is one of the only beings at Hogwarts for the first part of Harry's stay there, and because of that his prominence is greater than it has ever been before.
Ah, okay. So we start out with Hogwarts closed and it later reopens. And Harry is just palling around with various ghosts when he goes back to use the library. ... Heee! See what I’ve put at the end!!!
Does the trophy room in hogwarts have any special meaning in this book?
It turns out that "trophy room" was actually Hogwarts slang for "den of love." Let's just say that when the movie rolls around, it might have to be NC-17.
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Ginny... would you say she is relatively important to the plot as a whole, or still just simply a side-character?
Very important in a totally new way.
Squeeee!!!!
new HB and HG maybe?
Maybe.
I don’t understand that question.
JOOOOOYYYYYY
Harry, at the library, alone ---- Yess!! Because yes, he was alone looking for a book in PS/SS and yes, the arc theory is all the heck through this! I’m going to analyze it more for that, later, though. Boy OMG that makes me so happy!!!!!
Wow, that was long, and I even left a ton of it out. These feel fairly accurate to me in places. In others, I'm not sure. And I think a lot of it ... well, any of us could predict that the Snape subplot would be "complicated" and we'd likely be right, yeah? But there are some really specific answers in there that it'll be very interesting to find out if they're right. (Sentence structure -- apologies to you for torturing you!) So, while I'm squeeing over a lot of this, I'm keeping in mind a lot of it may just be hokum.