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Re: mistyescape February 12 2004, 06:24:01 UTC
thank you for the kind words, but i will reitterate what i said to a previous commenter:

regardless of how i appear to you, the fact remains that i am "fat" if fat=obese, then i most definitely qualify. i am 5'7" and about 200lbs which places me in the 2nd class of obesity according to a standard BMI chart.

i may carry my weight in a manor which makes me appear smaller than i really am, but i still have to pay twice as much for ugly clothing in specialty stores and i still have to squeeze and strain my ass into seats on airplanes. i am fat enough that i am the larest person in both classes i am enrolled in at university. i outweigh my 6'2" boyfriend by about 20 lbs.

having said all that, it is not the word fat that we have to eliminate from our vocabularies, fat is not a 4 letter word, a bad thing, or an indicator of unattractiveness, stupidity, clumbsiness, or ill health, despite what the better half of society would have you believe.

it is simply a word that describes someone who carries around more weight than another.

i dont believe in sugarcoating descriptives. curvy, voluptuous, zoftig are nice words, but they still mean the same thing. and their existance suggests that there is something wrong with fat, which there is not!

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Re: tamperevident February 12 2004, 06:35:48 UTC
the words "voluptious" and "curvy" are much older than the whole "anti-fat" epidemic, and represent shape, rather than size. maybe someone at some time did use it in that way against you, but i doubt your friend here was trying to sugar-coat an insult, she was making you a compliment. you are a very attractive woman. please accept it?

Main Entry: vo·lup·tuous
Pronunciation: -sh&-w&s, -sh&s
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin voluptuosus, irregular from voluptas pleasure, from volup pleasurable; akin to Greek elpesthai to hope, Latin velle to wish -- more at WILL
1 a : full of delight or pleasure to the senses : conducive to or arising from sensuous or sensual gratification : LUXURIOUS b : suggesting sensual pleasure by fullness and beauty of form
2 : given to or spent in enjoyments of luxury, pleasure, or sensual gratifications

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Re: mistyescape February 12 2004, 06:57:26 UTC
i dont think that i am unattractive at all... i may feel that way from time to time but so does everyone... i have no problem accepting compliments, but i just dont understand why people get so upset that i call myself fat.

it's not self depricating, it's just what i am. i may be beautiful, but i am also fat. the two are not mutually exclusive.

and voluptuous and curvy and all those words are great at describing someone who may or may not be fat. but they dont replace the term fat as far as im concerned...

anyway... i think all this fat discussion is a little excessive and should probably take place elsewhere. my email inbox is overflowing with replies to new comments every 5 minutes.

i do appreciate the input and what not, but jeez o_o

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last one, i swear! %-) tamperevident February 12 2004, 07:03:55 UTC
yeah, i know. have i given you a neurosis with all my replies yet? ;-P

i can be a bit excessive, when i latch onto an idea that really interests me, and this has been an extremely interesting discussion. i do apologize for any inconvenience. thank you for your participation, and i'm going to shut up now. :-)

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