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devour_theflesh August 14 2009, 23:04:58 UTC
Wait- god gave Mary a choice?

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lintilla August 14 2009, 23:15:16 UTC
Yep.

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conuly August 14 2009, 23:15:40 UTC
I suppose she had the choice to abort. I mean, it would've been riskier than an abortion nowadays in a hospital or clinic, but....

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linguafranca August 14 2009, 23:22:40 UTC
But of course, being omniscient, God already knew she'd take the job. Otherwise he would have chosen someone else.

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cmzero August 14 2009, 23:56:48 UTC
See, I'm prolife, but I find people who are but refuse to promote good adoption facilities and other support for the mother and kid to be aggravating. The question should not only be "does the child deserve life" but "how can we make it so the mother doesn't reach the point where she thinks killing it is the best option?"

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hourglasscreate August 15 2009, 00:06:27 UTC
Oh my Ghod. A pro-life view that I can respect.

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squeeful August 15 2009, 00:10:08 UTC
That just ignores all the other reasons women and teens chose to abort.

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meleth August 14 2009, 23:29:54 UTC
I'm really pleased that this didn't include the phrase, "invisible sky fairy" or any of its variations.

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chasingtides August 14 2009, 23:53:23 UTC
The nuns always taught me that God is God and that means that a flimsy piece of latex (or some hormones) really oughtn't get in his way if he wants to get something done.

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poison_parlour August 15 2009, 02:56:16 UTC
See, that's a wonderful way of looking at. I'm sure the same theory can be applied to abortions. 'God is God and that means that if an abortion or two is going to stop him, then we're all fucked'.

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chasingtides August 15 2009, 03:10:36 UTC
The nuns taught me that God's all-powerful and, keeping that in mind, if he's got a plan, there's probably fuck-all I can do about it, what with being human and all. So they taught us safe-sex and about abortion and all of those things that apparently Catholics don't get taught. (And hey, they were the first people in my life to tell me it was a-okay to be queer because if I like chicks, it's because God wants me to like chicks and that's that.)

I'm not Christian anymore, but I retain great affection for Catholicism because of my nuns.

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banshea August 15 2009, 03:35:48 UTC
Aww, no fair. You got better nuns than I did. My nuns told me that all queers are going to hell. Flat-out, in those words. And this was within spitting distance of San Francisco, even.

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shaysdays August 15 2009, 01:04:33 UTC
Where does this quote say anything about being specifically Christian?

Almost all religions have anti-choice factions/sects.

Edit- if I call wank now, it's retroactive, right? RIGHT?

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betterbebalboa August 15 2009, 01:25:28 UTC
Anti-choice is pretty sparse in Judaism. There are a lot of Jewish religious leaders who want to see a lot less abortion - but there are very, very few who would call for government criminalization of abortion, because there's a long tradition in Jewish ethical texts that there are certain instances in which abortion is the moral choice (namely, when the fetus is directly threatening the life of the mother). And even the most Orthodox of Jews generally don't want to give the government veto power over whether a woman is allowed to have an abortion, because they don't want to face a life-threatening pregnancy where their religious ethics and the law of the land disagree.

All of which is to say that yes, there are anti-choice Jews, but they're a lot fewer and farther between than anti-choice Christians.

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shaysdays August 15 2009, 01:29:43 UTC
If we're breaking them down one at a time, this is going to take a while.

Judaism kinda sorta down, millions of religions to go.

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soveryemo August 15 2009, 02:56:28 UTC
I didn't know this about Judaism. Thanks for the info.

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