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Oct 13, 2008 11:04

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IF THE MEDIA WANT TO DISCUSS ‘THE ISSUES’ AND NOT ‘ASSOCIATIONS’,
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metaphorsbwithu October 13 2008, 20:44:46 UTC
Mike, you always take the page of the Obama/Alkinsky playbook by creating these straw men that aren't part of the conversation.

I've explained in numerous posts my arguments against Obama, documenting my observations regarding this race, but you rarely respond to them directly.

For the last time:

1) The problem with associating with people like Wright, Pfleger, and Ayers is not that he's just been in their vicinity but he has been allied with them and share part of their agenda.

PLUS, he's LIED about it over and over and over.

2. Obama again and again has said he has had no connection with ACORN.

That is a LIE Mike. Read my previous posts when you have the time. ACORN has been a contributor to the mortgage crisis and at the heart of the VOTER fraud you raged against so loudly in Florida in 2000 where it was never proved to have happened (at least on the Republican side). Obama took money for ACORN and delivered money to them in association with Bill Ayers on the Annenberg Foundation and Woods Fund. He served as an attorney in suing banks to COMPEL them to write those high risk loans you denied the banks were forced to write.

3. Obama LIED about his opposition to the "Born Alive" bill, the same bill that eventually passed in the US Senate 98-0 and his home state of Illinois. His ever-changing statements on this issue have sent a chill up my spine.

4. I've read the sex-education bill he's cited as a model and it is not what he or you are pretending it to be. It's social control, not concerned with the predatory issue. Read my earlier posts. I can't keep looking up references for you.

5. Obama just told a tax-burdened plumber he'd have to buck up because his intent is to spread the wealth around. The evidence of his redistribution of wealth plans is overwhelming.

6. Where the heck do you think the Fed is getting the money they're using to bail everyone out?

7. RE:Mindless fear of concepts is absurd and deserves ridicule. What an empty waste of words and rhetoric. I am neither mindless nor do I fear concepts. That is a job for libs who actually hide the facts and work hard to keep them out of the public arena. The fact that they are keeping out information you disagree with should be no reason for you to condone it.

8. Your defense of the biased/liberal press is simply laughable. I document it weekly. You rationalize it. That's your job as a leftist. :-D

9. There you go changing the subject about elites. Yu do it all the time.

10. Trust? Did you read my off the top of my head answers to the Tom Brokaw "moderated" debate? Did you watch the debate? I'd suggest you read my posts on all the debates, especially the one on the brilliant Joe Biden's gaffes.

11. Send me links to the actual posts on Ayers and ACORN you've read. Have you read mine?

I'm assuming you don't find fault with all the other information I presented in this post. You should say so directly. *LOL*

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tniassaint October 13 2008, 21:11:03 UTC
Not gonna adress all of this -- no time today

as the kid gets bigger I run out of time

I did not even read the play book - so I guess I am a natural...

4 - I read it too... It wasn't anything ominous.

5 - redistribution of wealth is an amusing topic. Every time I buy a gallon of gas I redistribute a bit of wealth to some Despot

6 - Where are they getting it? Not from hard currency for one thing. Right now it is all on paper - it's still real money, but none of it cash. It is more a technical then political question. Didn't McCain vote in favor of the bail out?

10 - I did watch the last debate. I think Obama clearly won it, but McCain did ok. I disagree with him, and I think his skills in the debate environment are limited. I am all excited to see the fur fly on Wed... it is Wed this time isn't it?

I have read several of your posts on it. I do not memorize everything - I don't have time. If you want them - later I will dig some of them back out (would take more then a couple minutes - took some time to find them )

I would point by point down the post but I am pressed at the moment. Yes I do find fault with some of the info in the post, but happily. We are all entitled to opinions.

I really should do a "Things I like about McCain" Post just to show the fairness that is me. lol

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metaphorsbwithu October 13 2008, 21:25:02 UTC
I don't want THE GODDAMNED GOVERNMENT tach sex education to little kids. I know what they want to teach!

I've told you all along it's all about the "S" word Mike. It's almost here. You should be happy. It's not amusing to me.

They're printing it, Mike. That's what they do. There is no money except in the hands of non-governmental entities who are holding onto it. Some are buying cheap stocks today. The market's up.

Obama repeated his stump speeches. Period. mcCain will not attack like he could. Obama gave him so many openings.

As long as the liberal moderators continue to ask stupid questions and not dig into issues that will embarrass Obama, he will continue to give canned mini-speeches. I'm sick of them.

And you said you were waiting for the debates to make up your mind. What a laugh!

Not one question on "Born Alive". Bill Ayers. ACORN and voter registration fraud. His 20 year association with Wright, Pfleger. Education reform in Chicago. His many lies and contradictory statements. A discussion of anything he's actually done. No. Just generic questions mostly, the kind you'd hear in a high school debate.

And don't tell me he's responded to those issues. His answers have been shown to be lies, and there have been no followups.

I know. You're not interested in any of that stuff. Some people are, but the media won't allow them to bring it up.

The fix is in, but will it work, or are Obama's opposition voters

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metaphorsbwithu October 13 2008, 21:38:18 UTC
I forgot to say that you should write a post on what you see in Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and the rest of the Democrats. I'd MUCH rather read that.

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