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Oct 13, 2008 11:04

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IF THE MEDIA WANT TO DISCUSS ‘THE ISSUES’ AND NOT ‘ASSOCIATIONS’,
WHY WON’T THEY TELL YOU THE TRUTH ABOUT THE REAL ISSUES?Is it because propaganda, promises, and rhetoric sound so much more appetizing than history ( Read more... )

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tniassaint October 13 2008, 20:38:10 UTC
All candidates have their pet issues. McCain has his as well. The University has the right to adjust any employee's pay. Did you do any checking into WHY they raised her pay. Was it already pending? What was her performance? It is an unsupported attempt to draw malfeasance. Sure it sounds bad, but it is not out and out illegal.

Obama Supports Teachers Unions. I support teachers unions. No Child Left Behind is a joke of a policy. The assessment tests are poorly contrived. Some teachers are better at some things then others. I learned a lot from teachers that did not fit into the lock step assessment requirements of the school system. Some of the current programs do not take that into account. Sure teachers need to be held to a level of accountability; but the current system is absurd/ I guess we should privatize the schools and go back to the levels of literacy this country had before public education?

Even in the bloated state of California, teachers do not expect $100k. Privatizing the schools will surely lead to collections of grossly overpaid teaching staff that is more concerned about profit and wages then the kids.

Most of the teachers I ask will tell you that the current administration has been one of the worse things to ever happen to education. I know. I have talked with them. I have many good friends that are teachers. They are appalled at the Republicans and their agenda.

Do I have a problem with Obama sending his kids to private schools. Hell no. He earned the money he spends on it - well him and his wife. Give me an indication that Obama has supported Ayers' educational positions. Show me how Obama has espoused support for the Weather Underground. Show me when where and how Obama has supported bombings of government buildings and killing police officers. Show me how Obama has any significant and lasting ties to Ayres... not the far right talking points - real substance. Got photos of them palling around? Got either one of them telling stories of their good old days together and how they wish they could go back and do it again? Maybe Ayres wants to be Secretary of Education! Wouldn't that be funny.

Ayres was a militant radical. Some of what he has to say has some validity. That said I do not now, nor ever condone his bombing and acts of violence. Obama has attempted to distance himself from Ayres as a less then savory influence in his past as McCain has attempted to distance himself from George the junior, and for similar reasons. BOTH of them feel that association with these people who are not running for office is a bad thing for their run. They are both right to do so.

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metaphorsbwithu October 13 2008, 21:01:53 UTC
Michelle's triple raise after her husband delivering some pork?

No connection? Has anyone looked into it? Or do we just give Obama a pass like on everything else? The media started digging into Gov. Palin's trash cans as soon as McCain named her his running mate. Repeated every Daily Kos lie and rumor they were handed. We know virtually NOTHING about Obama from the media other than what we find out for ourselves.

But oh, no! Mike believes the media is fair and unbiased.

You should be so embarrassed, Mike!

I've noticed you have nothing to say about Obama and Ayers' success in spending $100 million in education reform. The media simply says he and Ayers worked on reform, nothing about their accomplishments.

But oh, no! Mike thinks the media is fair and unbiased. Have you seen the universal promoting of the Republican Rage mantra, pushed by the DNC? Want a link showing REAL rage amog liberal democrats? Read my recent post on the subject?

I thought not. Pretty disgusting.

There you go again. Got to bring Bush into the conversation. McCain couldn't stand Bush and crossed the aisles infinitely more times than Obama did.

The issue is not about Ayers actions forty years ago. It is what he's stood for since then, up to today. Obama was synpathetic to many of Ayers' goals, worked with him, and tried to LIE about it before being FORCED to distance himself.

The media keeps emphasizing Obama was eight years old when Ayers was bombing federal buildings, the home of judges, etc., that he is a "respected" professor in Chicago, the poster city for corrupt machine politics, works on education reform.

They never go into what he stands for or what he and Obama have done.

But no, Mike thinks ... well, you get the picture.

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