I have never heard of misaimed fandom. There is so much out there in fanfic that addresses everything under the sun, including major taboos, that I kinda thought that was what fandom and slash was for...addressing things not normally addressed in "pretty little fictions." Now much of fanfic is not well-written, but that's another subject. If the author cannot pull off her insane idea, then, well, it may not be the idea that is the problem but the writing itself
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Sonny was supposed to get the whole first season, but the writers were afraid he'd take the show away from them, so they had to kill him off. From what I've heard, Ray did have input in the mafia stuff--he was friends with John Gotti. And of course he knew how to make a villain sympathetic--that's why Stephen Cannell hired him. *g* The writers definitely used things from Ray's past, and his earlier movies--"A Deal's a Deal" was something of an homage to "The Idolmaker
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I sort of ignore "culture" in my stories, which is maybe wrong of me, but I guess I concentrate more on just who they are underneath the labels. It's probably totally idealistic and unrealistic of me, but oh well. I do see homophobia in slash characters of course, because it's usually a first time for many of them, and they do not normally (or have ever) identified themselves as "gay." That's why I liked your Roadhouse stories so much. It was great when Sonny kept thinnking "is Vinnie a fag?" and you knew it was Sonny projecting his own insecurities about homosexuality because, really, Sonny was the one all over Vinnie every night and Vinnie, in his deep depression, often just tolerated it (although of course he liked it, too, maybe a little more denial there, too?) It makes for some great drama, and the characters really are forced to take a deeper, harder look at themselves to finally, in the end, just accept themselves for better or worse. That is good writing! I have Sonny finding it easy to love Vinnie but difficult to
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Thank you! Having been brought up Catholic, their culture is one of the thing that resonates with me, so I enjoy writing it. It's not something I've ever focused on in any of the other fandoms I wrote it. I do love the forbidden love aspect being heightened, though. *g*
I think you're right about Sonny treating anyone who pissed him off pretty much the same. But mulignanes is a racial epitet; it means eggplant. I think if Vinnie told him to stop using the word, he'd do it.
In some ways, Sonny was all wrong for the business he was in. He was way too trusting--not just of Vinnie, but of anyone he cared about. The writers wrote a complex character, and Ray was able to embody that. Of course we're going to be fascinated!
I was brought up Unitarian. Catholicism is so alien to me! So I think it is mostly wise to ignore it in my stories except peripherally, or write the characters as "fallen" as far as faith so I don't have to deal with it, but still having the cultural effects.
About the racial epithet. My bad! I didn't know. Eggplant? I find it a rather non-threatening plant myself.
I absolutely love that the character of Sonny is so easily trusting...and generous and affectionate. The writers also did it in a way that did not make him look stupid or too naive...just sweet??? How'd that happen?
I do my best to avoid writing aspects of characters that I'm not familiar enough with, and I think it's a good policy.
I have no idea why eggplant is an insult. I'd mostly be confused if someone called me that. Or any other vegetable. "Radish!" Uh, what? *g*
I'm biased, but I think Ray brought a lot to Sonny's character. He always did know how to bring a warmth to a character who wasn't supposed to be particularly warm or sympathetic.
I have, since the first time I watched WG in the late 80s, always given mucho kudos to the actors...all of them. You get a genius combination of good writing and good acting and good directing with that extra spark all too rarely...when it's there it should be bottled and saved. I still believe they made a big mistake killing off Sonny. Who cares if he took over the show and it went in a different direction? That's what good writing is about...recognizing what you have and adjusting the plan to make room for it. You don't get that kind of spark every day, especially in Stephen J. Cannell cheese. It's so rare. Arrogance made them think they could repeat it with the rest of the arcs? Sure Vinnie and Frank are GREAT and they tried to give Vinnie Roger as a new boyfriend but it just never worked for me. I can't even watch the rest of the arcs.
I fell for William Hurt the first time I saw The Big Chill. When he and Mary Kay Place are driving to the cemetary and she says that the last time she talked to Alex they had a fight and she yelled at him, and he says, "That's probably why he killed himself." I knew I had to see it again. *g*
I do love The Big Chill and ironically it is Kevin Costner's first movie...he plays the dead body! I love William Hurt. Altered States! Yeah! Another Costner movie I forgot to mention that I just adore is "Field of Dreams." Back to William Hurt...was pleasantly surprised to see him in second season of "Damages." I am way behind on TV because I only watch dvds because I travel so much, never live broadcast and do not own a Tivo, so I only just finished watching "Damages." Was impressed.
Speaking of traveling, this was written on a laptop from So. Lake Tahoe where I have been for a week. Can't wait to get home Monday night. No new writing for me. No time during my busy season, but I have to ask, are you writing? Will you be posting more fic ever? Wondering minds.
I am writing! And I will be posting more fic, though I'm not writing in order (I'm writing more Roadhouse stories). So it could be a while before they get posted. If you'd like to read them before they're officially ready, that could be arranged. *g*
Please turn away while I lose all respect/dignity and beg. Yes! Please. Please. I would like to read the stories you're writing before they are officially ready. And then when they are officially ready and posted, I'll read them again and comment again. Roadhouse Blues is my favorite WG thingy I've read in all of WG fandom.
I await them while trying to keep from jumping up and down...with difficulty.
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I think you're right about Sonny treating anyone who pissed him off pretty much the same. But mulignanes is a racial epitet; it means eggplant. I think if Vinnie told him to stop using the word, he'd do it.
In some ways, Sonny was all wrong for the business he was in. He was way too trusting--not just of Vinnie, but of anyone he cared about. The writers wrote a complex character, and Ray was able to embody that. Of course we're going to be fascinated!
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About the racial epithet. My bad! I didn't know. Eggplant? I find it a rather non-threatening plant myself.
I absolutely love that the character of Sonny is so easily trusting...and generous and affectionate. The writers also did it in a way that did not make him look stupid or too naive...just sweet??? How'd that happen?
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I have no idea why eggplant is an insult. I'd mostly be confused if someone called me that. Or any other vegetable. "Radish!" Uh, what? *g*
I'm biased, but I think Ray brought a lot to Sonny's character. He always did know how to bring a warmth to a character who wasn't supposed to be particularly warm or sympathetic.
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Speaking of traveling, this was written on a laptop from So. Lake Tahoe where I have been for a week. Can't wait to get home Monday night. No new writing for me. No time during my busy season, but I have to ask, are you writing? Will you be posting more fic ever? Wondering minds.
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I await them while trying to keep from jumping up and down...with difficulty.
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