Challenge 19 - Discussion

[audiopineapple]

Challenge 19
Discussion

Description

This challenge is where I give a discussion topic and members discuss it! It is as simple as that really but make sure the posts you add don't just say 'I agree' as that won't be accepted.

Make sure to discuss with members from other teams as well as your teams, I know this

Comments

[sherrilina]

Well obviously Merlin is like other online fandoms in that there are a lot of slashers, lol....or did you mean something else by that part of the question? :p

As for comparisons to other Arthurian work, well obviously the ages are very different, as are Gwen's position and the other changes. And the immense continuity fail.

Yeah, I'm not sure I understand the question, lol....just comparing the show to other shows, or the fandoms, or both? :s

Team Morgana

[audiopineapple]

lol I meant like other tv shows or films, like Monty Python or the Princess Bride - I'll go clafify it :p

[tahlly]

Well, I gotta say I don't know that much about other Arthurian Work

[tahlly]

Uuups. Team Merlin. ;D

just a heads-up: spoilers up to 3x04

[batgurl88]

LIST OF THINGS MERLIN BORROWS FROM:

-The Princess Bride (Lancelot's backstory = Inigo's, having devoted his entire life to learning to fight after having watched his family be slaughtered as a child; Arthur and Merlin's poisoned goblets on the beach scene mirrors Westley and Vizzini's scene quite closesly; they legitimately had ROUS's on the show in the form of the wildren; Mary Collins is the scary-looking Ancient Booer in the courtyard; Sir Oswald is not left-handed, but was just trying to make the fight last a bit longer; the scene where "Sir Oswald" and "Sir Ethan" are quite obviously dead and Uther asks Gaius if there's anything he can do for them = Miracle Max with the mostly-dead vs. all-dead)

-Monty Python and the Holy Grail (it's more that there's a lot of crossover potential, but there are the basic Arthurian legend spoofs; the Black Knight; the "burn the witch" scene seems to match the anti-magic logic at times; Anhora = Tim the Enchanter with his random and unecessary teleporting being as useless as Tim's explosions;

Re: just a heads-up: spoilers up to 3x04

[tahlly]

Wow. I mean.. wow.

OMG. I would never have come up with something like.. this.
But I see where you're coming from. ;D
Haven't seen all of those films, though.

Team Merlin

Re: just a heads-up: spoilers up to 3x04

[batgurl88]

lol Yeah, I might've given the topic too much thought, but it's mostly because I'm always looking for parallels for icon-making purposes ;)

Team Arthur

Re: just a heads-up: spoilers up to 3x04

[sherrilina]

Oh, now I see who requested this topic! :p Lol, I thought the skeletons were reminiscent of the ones we see Giles briefly fighting in Tabula Rasa, but probably because it was Anthony Stewart Head, and the CGI was similarly crappy in both cases! ;)

John Hurt was in HP? :s And loll I did think of Buckbeak's flight during that scene, and his "King of the World" gesture which had been in that scene in HP.

Also the gryffins in this series (seen in 1x05) totally look like hypogriffs!

Team Morgana

[thecheekydragon]

I don't know if this counts, but Merlin for me is a lot like Smallville :) (though I admit I have been remiss in watching this show the last couple of seasons).You have similar kinds of heroes and villains, the show started with a teenaged Clark Kent and his friends (OT4-ish), there's talk about destiny and fate and obviously Clark/Superman has powers like our beloved warlock, though in a different way. I dunno - anyone else see some parallels between Merlin and Smallville?

And there's this :D (Of course, I would have moved some of the heads around...)

[sallyna_smile]

I just wrote my comment about it xD I didn't know you had chosen the same subject *lol* ....so I definetly agree on this xD
It's interesting to see how the character can fit quite well in those costumes xD even if I'd put Colin as Tom, and so Merlin as Clark -Bradley looks even more gorgeous with Tom's body, YUM. And I'd put Lana as Gwen, cos they're tiny and cute... and Lois (which isn't here) would definetly be Morgana *.*
Uther as Clark's father makes me LOL so much. He used to be sweet and caring, so that would be totally Gaius ;)

team merlin

[thecheekydragon]

hehe - I can always count on you to have similar thoughts :)

This is how I'd arrange the 'heads' too. Colin/Merlin definitely as Tom/Clark. By default, then, Arthur would have to Lex (and in early Smallville, Clark and Lex were friends, Clark did save Lex's life, and did keep his special powers from him, so there are parallels).

Uther would have to be the older Luthor (didn't we have a conversation already that John Glover would have been a good Uther?) And Gaius would have to be Clark's father so let's switch those heads around :)

Hmmm....I'm undecided about Gwen and Morgana. Morgana as Lana and Gwen as Chloe seem okay to me here, though if Lois were in the pic, I'd probably change my mind.

Merlin = Smallville FTW!

TEAM MERLIN

[sallyna_smile]

hehe - I can always count on you to have similar thoughts :)
Always bb xD

didn't we have a conversation already that John Glover would have been a good Uther?
YES we did. We actually did predict this very moment weeks ago. How magic is Team Merlin???? Srsly!

Arthur as Lex.... I can totally see that. He's s totally fascinated by Clark, the country boy, and he has this aura of power which sometimes can best out even Lionel's.
Luckly Art/Merl aren't going to be each other nemesis, but quite the contrary.. so YAY for us I guess xD

oh, here comes the epic crossover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y59uehGWJGY

team merlin

[lady_bracknell]

Merlin always reminds me a bit of The Motorcycle Diaries, in that it's about these people we know go on to do great things, but it's about how they became those people rather than the legendary acts themselves. I've always really liked that. I also really like the occasional roadtrip feel to Merlin, although obviously they're on horses, not motorbikes, lol.

I also feel a lot of HP parallels in Merlin - the idea that friendship is important, that none of the main characters have a traditional family like Harry and they create their own bonds. I think there's a bit of a Dumbledore/Harry feel to Gaius and Merlin sometimes - the educator and the young powerful wizard he believes in and would sacrifice himself for without thought.

Team Merlin

[sallyna_smile]

YES! Harry Potter.
There's A LOT of that. Even if, I have to say that wheter in the tv show we have the Gaius/Merlin which helps a lot on the comparison of Dumbledore/Harry, in the legend I can see that role with Merlin/Arthur.. you know, with Merlin being the trusted advisor and a sort of guardian and more witted kind of man. Which I guess it's quite nice ♥

team merlin

[lady_bracknell]

I hadn't thought of it before you said that, but I think Harry becomes advisor to Ron and Hermione in a similar way to how Merlin does with Arthur - that it takes the troll moment for them to all think 'yes, we're friends' and after that they value what Harry does and who he is. I think underneath it all, Arthur has that respect for Merlin - like he knows Merlin will always come through for him and that he has that inner courage that Harry does too, even when he doesn't really know what to do or how they'll win.

I'm trying to work out Morgana and Gwen in the Potter analogy but... getting nowhere, lol.

Team Merlin

[sallyna_smile]

Well, Morgana would be Draco Malfoy, because there's some sort of dark side to her, but something deeper if you look closely. And I'd say Gwen = Ginny, because of how determina she can be whenever she sets her mind to something.

team merlin