!Mod post [success, because no, you don't ever mess with us :)]

[insideminds]

[ETA since this hit metafandom : Please read the comments to this entry before asking any questions, I know there are quite a lot of comments, but it's possible that your query may have already been answered. If you're still unsure, then you can post a comment, but I've lost count of the amount of times I've answered the same questions in 50 different places

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[insideminds]

No, posting new adult content is fine - but the entry must be set as "contains explicit adult content" when you post it to the comm, which means that anyone under 18 will see the "you are about to view content that may only be suitable for adults" sign on their f-list.

My wording is probs dodgy, as I've not had a tremendous amount of sleep - we still allow adult content, but we have to play by LJ's "rules"

[insideminds]

NP, thanks for going with us on this, I know it's frustrating :)

[ineptshieldmaid]

... I have no polite words for LJ in this situation.

For you and the other mod teams: thank you for handling this in a sensible and effective fashion.

Guess this is the week that I take all my fic off LJ! Or start doing so, anyway.

[insideminds]

I'm still in somewhat of an annoyed flap, urhk.

NP, 'tis what we're here for, and we're grateful to our members for being so patient with us :D

It's a shame that LJ are being funny now, and there must be a reason for it, or some sort of trigger. I endevour to find that reason/trigger and use it to whip them on how daft they're being. This may or may not be succesful, but I'm going to try.

[insideminds]

I really don't know. When I get some time I might do some digging, bc the sooner I find what has caused it, the sooner I can call LJ on it. Using merlinxarthur comm as an example - it's been going for what, 3 years? And they've only just thought to flag it? I smell a rat, and I'm not letting it drop until they quit being idiots.

[kewen]

My reply: http://www.livejournal.com/support/see_request.bml?id=1123743&auth=9qhf

I thought it was fine, though they should have told the mods of the communities to flag entires before they put a blanket rating on the whole community. They also understood my concern about it being a slash thing.

Putting adults filters on specific entires is a valid request I think.

[insideminds]

Unfortunately, I can't see your support request, as I suspect it's set to private (like mine was)

My issue lies not with the request itself, but in the way they conducted themselves. It took the mods of tens of comms contacting LJ before we even knew a smidgen of what as happening. If they'd contacted us and asked us to put filters up, I wouldn't have had an issue, but they didn't, and I do. Because they're breaking their own Terms of Service by not working with us, and then having the cheek to lecture us on how to run our comm, and it's making for one very unhappy mod team :/

Although I am glad they understood our concerns about it being a slash issue :)

[kewen]

Here's what they wrote:

Thank you for your inquiry. When we become aware of explicit adult content in journals, communities, or entries, we reserve the right to set an administrative flag if the content is not already flagged by the author or maintainer

[insideminds]

Thanks for C&P! :D

A simple request would have been enough - we're not going to say no, bc that would put the whole comm at risk. And they really, really need to work on their communication policy *sigh*

[themadlurker]

What the hell, LJ? Just glancing over entries that appear with an NC-17 rating, I can't even find one where the adult content was even posted on the comm, just links to help people find the content. Does it really require filtering just say there is adult content out there on the internet? Seriously?

Thank you to you and the other mods who have jumped in to deal with this newest round of LJ bs.

[insideminds]

IDEK, but we're playing it safe whilst I'm still having it out with them, so it might not be permenant.

NP bb, 'tis what we're here for, even if LJ don't think we can do our jobs *shakes fist*

Edited for a minor spelling mistake that cocked up the whole first sentence *facepalm*

[themadlurker]

Yeah, you're smart to play it safe, especially considering LJ's stellar track record dealing with fanfiction and adult content.

And this whole thing, btw, is why the handy little "flag this as inappropriate" buttons on every entry have been skeeving me out from the beginning. Sure, LJ is just responding to reports... and it's not their fault if they've set up a system that penalizes content that's more likely to be reported... like non-het content... oh wait, I think I need another sarcasm tag. *headdesk*

[insideminds]

I know, and I'm still waiting for a reply to my comment. If I don't get one I'll try contacting them again, because this was clearly targeting slash comms and that's not okay.

Flag buttons don't bother me, but I believe those buttons should be passed on to the mods to deal with, and only get LJ involved if it can't be resolved. THAT IS WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, LJ *hands in air*

[insideminds]

I know, I only thought it needed locking if it was directly in the comm, but no, it looks like LJ don't trust any of their users *headdesk*