(hi, I don't actually know you, but I'm kind of...hunting for people who are similarly outraged? Because I honestly can't believe that the took 2.99 movie's worth of a fabulously feminist character and trashed her within a one minute scene)
Is that metaphorically pregnant? Because I missed that if not!
Yeah, not ideal, but they were going for the whole Calypso parallel and I was so stunned they actually didn't make it a disgustingly happy ending that I'm inclined to forgive. I mean, it's not exactly a practical ending, she's on some rock in the middle of nowhere! As if you'd do that. But yes, I had similar thoughts while in the cinema about the slight demotion. Bah.
It's the bit after the credits, which implies very strongly that she's spent the whole past ten years on land being a good mommmy to Will's son.
Honestly I don't think I'd have been nearly as upset if not for that 'ten years later' tag - they've just spent the whole movie repeatedly doing the impossible, but apparently the only actually impossible thing is for them to alter the terms of Will's bargain? Even with ten years to kill? Yeah, I don't buy it. So it totally read to me as "Elizabeth has to stay at home like a good little wifey *because the writers say so*."
Oh, and Sunday may not work for me after all. I have a dinner date at 6 that evening. Wanna try to sneak out there next weekend or perhaps Sunday night through Memorial Day (at which case, I could drive)?
Or how 'bout I just give you a call like a normal, functional human being? X_x
I haven't seen the third movie (and can't, until it hits DVD), but I never liked Elizabeth. Couldn't quite put my finger on why, though-- I knew it was more than just the strong scent of Sue in the morning-- and you've just nailed it for me. The corset line annoyed the heck out of me, right out of the Ohpleez school of historical retconning.
I think I let Elizabeth get away with a lot because her character is no more stereotypical or sue-ish than anyone else in the movies - in fact, in some ways she's less so - but yeah, the corset line in particular annoyed the heck out of me, too, even though I loved what they did with them early in the movie.
Well, she didn't spend all that time waiting, clearly. Where would she have got clothes for her crotchfruit?
My theory is that she went back to Singapore and kicked ass as Pirate Lord for nine years or so, then came back to the island with her kid so he could meet his daddy! I WILL NOT BUDGE ON THIS POINT. SHE IS STILL THE PIRATE KING, OKAY.
The barefoot thing, though. Yeah. It really does sound silly but it would have been a lot better if she'd just been wearing SHOES.
You know, I'd love that interpretation, except she just looked so serene and self-satisfied when she saw the flash of green. She's sure that it's Will's child.
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(hi, I don't actually know you, but I'm kind of...hunting for people who are similarly outraged? Because I honestly can't believe that the took 2.99 movie's worth of a fabulously feminist character and trashed her within a one minute scene)
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It wasn't even the pregnant thing so much as the standing on shore waiting part. Because Elizabeth does not *do* that.
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Yeah, not ideal, but they were going for the whole Calypso parallel and I was so stunned they actually didn't make it a disgustingly happy ending that I'm inclined to forgive. I mean, it's not exactly a practical ending, she's on some rock in the middle of nowhere! As if you'd do that. But yes, I had similar thoughts while in the cinema about the slight demotion. Bah.
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Honestly I don't think I'd have been nearly as upset if not for that 'ten years later' tag - they've just spent the whole movie repeatedly doing the impossible, but apparently the only actually impossible thing is for them to alter the terms of Will's bargain? Even with ten years to kill? Yeah, I don't buy it. So it totally read to me as "Elizabeth has to stay at home like a good little wifey *because the writers say so*."
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Or how 'bout I just give you a call like a normal, functional human being? X_x
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My theory is that she went back to Singapore and kicked ass as Pirate Lord for nine years or so, then came back to the island with her kid so he could meet his daddy! I WILL NOT BUDGE ON THIS POINT. SHE IS STILL THE PIRATE KING, OKAY.
The barefoot thing, though. Yeah. It really does sound silly but it would have been a lot better if she'd just been wearing SHOES.
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I haven't decided whose it is yet, but then maybe Elizabeth doesn't know either. >:P
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