See, here's my deal with Elizabeth, if you'll indulge me.
In the first movie, Elizabeth seemed like nothing more than a patronizing girl-power 'look at me I'm so progressively feminist' character. Everything from 'I learned martial arts and mastering sword play from reading books' to "Try wearing a corset". I really didn't like her because I didn't find her believable. Not to say women can't be bad-ass, but when believability and actual character development is sacrificed just to make someone bad-ass, I can't get behind it....male or female.
However, she really grew on me in 'Dead Man's Chest' and I thought she was freaking awesome in 'At World's End' because she seemed like an actual character to me then. But when she was giving her monologue on the Black Pearl the writer in me kept thinking to myself "Man, this would be 10 times cooler if she actually grew into this role over the course of the 3 movies." I mean, this governor's daughter who at first could barely handle a sword and only knew of the sea from books grows into this woman who is tough, a master of the sword, and the FUCKING KING OF THE PIRATES! But no, the first movie creeped back into my head and I kept thinking "Oh right, girl power". I concede that these movies aren't exactly known for characters that actually grow and change, but still...it would have been nice. ~_~
And yes, the last bit was irksome for me as well because it only reminded me of what Elizabeth was from the beginning...just a half-hearted excuse for a girl to swing around a sword. And like all such characters it's only a matter of time until they're barefoot and pregnant....or dead. 9_9
Oh, and Sunday may not work for me after all. I have a dinner date at 6 that evening. Wanna try to sneak out there next weekend or perhaps Sunday night through Memorial Day (at which case, I could drive)?
Or how 'bout I just give you a call like a normal, functional human being? X_x
I haven't seen the third movie (and can't, until it hits DVD), but I never liked Elizabeth. Couldn't quite put my finger on why, though-- I knew it was more than just the strong scent of Sue in the morning-- and you've just nailed it for me. The corset line annoyed the heck out of me, right out of the Ohpleez school of historical retconning.
I think I let Elizabeth get away with a lot because her character is no more stereotypical or sue-ish than anyone else in the movies - in fact, in some ways she's less so - but yeah, the corset line in particular annoyed the heck out of me, too, even though I loved what they did with them early in the movie.
In the first movie, Elizabeth seemed like nothing more than a patronizing girl-power 'look at me I'm so progressively feminist' character. Everything from 'I learned martial arts and mastering sword play from reading books' to "Try wearing a corset". I really didn't like her because I didn't find her believable. Not to say women can't be bad-ass, but when believability and actual character development is sacrificed just to make someone bad-ass, I can't get behind it....male or female.
However, she really grew on me in 'Dead Man's Chest' and I thought she was freaking awesome in 'At World's End' because she seemed like an actual character to me then. But when she was giving her monologue on the Black Pearl the writer in me kept thinking to myself "Man, this would be 10 times cooler if she actually grew into this role over the course of the 3 movies." I mean, this governor's daughter who at first could barely handle a sword and only knew of the sea from books grows into this woman who is tough, a master of the sword, and the FUCKING KING OF THE PIRATES! But no, the first movie creeped back into my head and I kept thinking "Oh right, girl power". I concede that these movies aren't exactly known for characters that actually grow and change, but still...it would have been nice. ~_~
And yes, the last bit was irksome for me as well because it only reminded me of what Elizabeth was from the beginning...just a half-hearted excuse for a girl to swing around a sword. And like all such characters it's only a matter of time until they're barefoot and pregnant....or dead. 9_9
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