Comments | meganbmoore: movie: Frozen

meganbmoore

movie: Frozen

Nov 30, 2013 17:33

So, I went to see Frozen with family today and liked it. Before I say anything about it, though, let me rant a bit:

Before the movie started, we had to sit through FORTY MINUTES of previews and commercials. Well, about 30 minutes of previews and commercials, and then 10 minutes of a short Mickey Mouse movie that was very "tee hee extreme cartoon ( Read more... )

movie: frozen, the snow queen

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tigerpetals December 1 2013, 23:09:41 UTC

Oh my god, 40 minutes! Forty! I think our theater put in like 30, because my sister and I were like 20 min. late and they were still going. So we missed most of them ( ... )

meganbmoore December 2 2013, 02:00:54 UTC

I think that the "OMG PERFECT ICE" thing and Hans's "We must not harm the queen!" and saving her from the assassins were both supposed to lay the groundwork for us to think one of them would fall for Elsa and result in a nice and tidy resolution to the triangle. I am too well trained by Disney to not recognize that Anna/Kristoff was the intended endgame from the barn scene onward.

I think the movie itself made Anna's suffering obvious, but when it comes to acknowledging how abuse affects people, fandom tends to assume the cheerful and/or heroic people weren't really abused, because they aren't as obviously scarred. (Most recent example for me is OUAT's fandom focusing on Regina being abused by her mother while ignoring the emotional abuse Snow and Henry received from her, and hating them for letting that affect their interactions with her.)

I...like Olaf overall? But found him annoying. Though all the focus in the trailers probably prejudiced me, not to mention people who said they were only watching for him.

tigerpetals December 2 2013, 02:48:25 UTC

Anna/Kristoff was the relationship getting screen time and emotional growth invested in it, so they were pretty telegraphed. Actually, that's a pretty cliché 'the guy wanted by the heroine is not right and not who she really wants' story, and that usually bothers me. But there was no scolding of Anna in any way for expressing interest in Hans instead of Kristoff, nor any prickly behavior from him regarding it. Plus it was secondary to Anna's real love story with Elsa. There was the criticism of trying to marry a guy she just met, but it never had anything to do with Kristoff as a love interest and the movie lets them be love without getting to marriage or even a magic kiss ( ... )

meganbmoore December 2 2013, 03:12:51 UTC

Yeah, the lack of "tsk tsk"-ing towards Anna over "you fell in love with a guy after knowing him for 5 minutes then learned he was evil" makes that much more palatable. Elsa and Kristoff were very much reacting to "ENGAGED TO A GUY YOU MET TODAY" as opposed to thinking she needed to learn life lessons. Elsa probably would have been just fine with things if Hans had just said he was interested in courting Anna. (Probably still not thrilled, but...) And then Kristoff is your general "really big heart and worries about people, really prickly exterior." I ALMOST felt bad for him when he spent most of the climax relegated to standing there all "But I thought true love's kiss was supposed to fix things? i came all this way, and now I have nothing to do..."

I agree that Elsa has the trappings of what fandom likes to turn woobie villains into, except that with her, it all actually is true.

I...kind of want to read that essay, but suspect it would enrage me.

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ladysaotome December 6 2013, 23:39:54 UTC

I remember our theater showing a ridiculous amount of previews/commercials but nowhere near 40 minutes of them. We took the two Nepali college students we've "adopted" and I felt like I should apologize to them after the 7th or 8th one. And that naked cell phone - highly inappropriate. Hopefully management got an earful over that one. I'm glad we were spared that ( ... )