Re: Rrroooowwwwrrrr, from Texas-HobbitmechtildNovember 7 2005, 03:14:46 UTC
Ah, dear, dear Tex,
Yes, he is an unrepeatable vision, is he not?
I really don’t see him appearing as androgynous as others might. There’s that strong, muscular neck to account for! :o) But I do see him as a picture of idealized manhood so often depicted by the sculptors and painters among us, especially among the classical artists, a balance of beauty and strength.
I think when people say adrogynous, they don't mean "effeminate," but that he has qualities that they associate with both male and female beauty. I think this is accurate for film-Frodo, especially when EW was still a teenager.
Since I am sure no one else is reading this post at this point (LJ entries have short shelf lives, unlike messageboard threads), I will say again that while his face is very masculine in the strength of the bone structure, the chiselled features, etc., there are also beauties most people call "female" (i.e. lots of soft, silky hair, very large expressive eyes, a lot of brow in proportion to the jaw area, a certain softness around the mouth, very smooth, unblemished skin, and rosy cheeks and lips). These are not "female", though, strictly speaking: they are actually the qualities of a beautiful child. Women typically carry those highly desirable childhood qualities into their young adulthood; grown men rarely do. Elijah Wood, at 18-21 years of age during the filming of LotR, was rare in that he, although quite obviously male and a sexual adult, he yet retained some of those beauties of childhood.
The photos you have posted above are as rare a creation as Michelangelo’s “David”, to whom we’ve often compared him. A work of art of that caliber is rare indeed.
Remember this comparison shot that Achila once posted in the Harem? I think I used it for a MOME sig pic last year:
And if you're talking Michelangelo's David, you can't leave out this one:
*snicker*
No, he definitely didn't and does not look like a girl (and you are right -- especially with that neck). Or Winona Ryder. Thin lips? Un-unh. They are thinner nowadays, now that he has finished losing his youthful facial softness *sob*, but they still aren't what I'd call, "thin," for heaven's sake.
Screencaps? Well, what we have is a slot to pay a DVD in the hard drive case for starters. Then we have a program for watching DVD's. Ours is called "Intervideo WinDVD6". That program comes with the capacity to make screencaps which can be saved onto the hard drive. I make copies to put in our photo program. If the caps are from the "wide screen" version, I have to crop them (see above). The caps in the previous LJ entry, showing the "Money Shot" were from the "full screen" version. I didn't have to do anything to them: those are the undoctored caps in actual size and shape.
Re: Rrroooowwwwrrrr, from Texas-HobbittaerieNovember 7 2005, 18:54:25 UTC
The DVD play and capture program that I use is called PowerDVD by Cyberlink (I think the web address is www.gocyberlink.com but you can also do a google search and it comes up.) The neet thing about this is that it is VERY easy to use if you have a dvd drive in your machine. And they let you download it free to use for a month to try it out. You can do a lot of screen captures of Frodo in a month. :-)
I was astonished to see that someone else had noticed the resemblance and I LOVE what you said describing his child/man beauty. Sets up an interesting conflict of instinct. Sometimes I don't know wether I want to snog him or feed him.
Re: Frodo as DavidmechtildNovember 7 2005, 19:10:24 UTC
Sometimes I don't know wether I want to snog him or feed him.
HA! *LOL*
Why not both? He's a hobbit -- and a man ("the way to a man's [hobbit's] heart is through his stomach", as folk have said...).
P.S. Thanks for that info. on another way to make screencaptures. I know Texas-hobbit and others would definitely be interested in a program that can be downloaded free. Maybe ours was downloaded, too? I am terrible at the technical stuff, so I really don't know.
Re: Frodo as DavidtaerieNovember 7 2005, 19:46:35 UTC
Yeah, I am really bad at technical stuff too. That is why I was so glad to find an easy program. Also explains why I have no idea how to share my screen captures. I have a huge collection of Frodo pics on my hard drive. Both grabbed from online sources and captured by myself. I am so glad my husband doesn't mind my hogging of computer resources. (He could probably do without the all Frodo all the time screensaver and desktop pics ;-)
Re: Frodo as DavidmechtildNovember 7 2005, 19:53:36 UTC
I am able to show my caps the same way I show any of my images, which is by posting them at a free photo-hosting site. I use Photobucket. One merely needs to register (remembering to tick off everything correctly, such as specifying that the album is to be "public" and thus viewable by casual observers without passwords).
Once I get a goodly pile of caps in my Photobucket album for screencaps, I'll post the link to it, like I do to my "Frodo Art Travesties" manips. If you have ever opened that album (link is on left border of the journal page), all you are doing is opening a Photobucket album. You could do that with your own screencaptures -- put them in an album and then make the link available. I think a Photobucket album can be looked at by any browser, unless the owner locks it.
Re: Frodo as David OMG!!taerieNovember 7 2005, 21:35:01 UTC
Thanks for pointing me to this. This was GREAT! Did you do all these? What a great job! I do a bit of this sort of thing myself and I know how hard it is. What program do you use? And last question is the most important. Where can I see the rest of the cropped nude Frodo picture? LOL! I didn't know about photobucket! I will check this out.. Thanks!
Re: Frodo as David OMG!!mechtildNovember 7 2005, 21:49:06 UTC
Well, I do keep a link to it under "links" on the left side of my opening journal page along with one to my fic, but you have to scroll down to see it, I'll admit. Otherwise there's a link on my "User's Info." page, but who looks at that? you may well ask.
If you just click open the first one, you can just keep clicking, "Next," to view them full-size. Otherwise, just click on the image you are interested in and it will enlarge. There are two pages. Actually, there is probably something to click at the top to access Photobucket, too, if you are interested in checking out what they have to offer.
I started making them to entertain myself and other besotted posters in Frodo's Harem, a thread at Khazad-dum (a Tolkien messageboard). The first ones I made were meant to be funny, since we were always talking about film Frodo's "art masterpiece"-classical beauty. But I soon found that I could make really beautiful images of him, too. Others were merely excuses to see him dressed in the costume and look of another era.
He really is a splendid model!
To make them, I used the photoshopping programs we already had loaded on our machine at home. For almost all the manipping I used the older, Microsoft Digital Image Pro 7.0, because I understood more easily how to find the things I needed on it. For almost all the cropping and re-sizing I used ACDSee 7.0 which does those functions more easily. ACDSee does everything the other program does and more, but I don't understand how to use most of its functions or how to access the tools. I don't really know how to use either of them properly; I just kept learning things as I fiddle. People who manip a lot seem to prefer PhotoShop.
Yes, he is an unrepeatable vision, is he not?
I really don’t see him appearing as androgynous as others might. There’s that strong, muscular neck to account for! :o) But I do see him as a picture of idealized manhood so often depicted by the sculptors and painters among us, especially among the classical artists, a balance of beauty and strength.
I think when people say adrogynous, they don't mean "effeminate," but that he has qualities that they associate with both male and female beauty. I think this is accurate for film-Frodo, especially when EW was still a teenager.
Since I am sure no one else is reading this post at this point (LJ entries have short shelf lives, unlike messageboard threads), I will say again that while his face is very masculine in the strength of the bone structure, the chiselled features, etc., there are also beauties most people call "female" (i.e. lots of soft, silky hair, very large expressive eyes, a lot of brow in proportion to the jaw area, a certain softness around the mouth, very smooth, unblemished skin, and rosy cheeks and lips). These are not "female", though, strictly speaking: they are actually the qualities of a beautiful child. Women typically carry those highly desirable childhood qualities into their young adulthood; grown men rarely do. Elijah Wood, at 18-21 years of age during the filming of LotR, was rare in that he, although quite obviously male and a sexual adult, he yet retained some of those beauties of childhood.
The photos you have posted above are as rare a creation as Michelangelo’s “David”, to whom we’ve often compared him. A work of art of that caliber is rare indeed.
Remember this comparison shot that Achila once posted in the Harem? I think I used it for a MOME sig pic last year:
And if you're talking Michelangelo's David, you can't leave out this one:
*snicker*
No, he definitely didn't and does not look like a girl (and you are right -- especially with that neck). Or Winona Ryder. Thin lips? Un-unh. They are thinner nowadays, now that he has finished losing his youthful facial softness *sob*, but they still aren't what I'd call, "thin," for heaven's sake.
Screencaps? Well, what we have is a slot to pay a DVD in the hard drive case for starters. Then we have a program for watching DVD's. Ours is called "Intervideo WinDVD6". That program comes with the capacity to make screencaps which can be saved onto the hard drive. I make copies to put in our photo program. If the caps are from the "wide screen" version, I have to crop them (see above). The caps in the previous LJ entry, showing the "Money Shot" were from the "full screen" version. I didn't have to do anything to them: those are the undoctored caps in actual size and shape.
Well, I must get ready to post another set!
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The neet thing about this is that it is VERY easy to use if you have a dvd drive in your machine. And they let you download it free to use for a month to try it out. You can do a lot of screen captures of Frodo in a month. :-)
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HA! *LOL*
Why not both? He's a hobbit -- and a man ("the way to a man's [hobbit's] heart is through his stomach", as folk have said...).
P.S. Thanks for that info. on another way to make screencaptures. I know Texas-hobbit and others would definitely be interested in a program that can be downloaded free. Maybe ours was downloaded, too? I am terrible at the technical stuff, so I really don't know.
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Also explains why I have no idea how to share my screen captures. I have a huge collection of Frodo pics on my hard drive. Both grabbed from online sources and captured by myself. I am so glad my husband doesn't mind my hogging of computer resources. (He could probably do without the all Frodo all the time screensaver and desktop pics ;-)
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Once I get a goodly pile of caps in my Photobucket album for screencaps, I'll post the link to it, like I do to my "Frodo Art Travesties" manips. If you have ever opened that album (link is on left border of the journal page), all you are doing is opening a Photobucket album. You could do that with your own screencaptures -- put them in an album and then make the link available. I think a Photobucket album can be looked at by any browser, unless the owner locks it.
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And last question is the most important.
Where can I see the rest of the cropped nude Frodo picture? LOL!
I didn't know about photobucket! I will check this out.. Thanks!
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Anyway, here's a link to the album:
http://photobucket.com/albums/v382/mechtild/Frodo%20Art%20Travesties/
If you just click open the first one, you can just keep clicking, "Next," to view them full-size. Otherwise, just click on the image you are interested in and it will enlarge. There are two pages. Actually, there is probably something to click at the top to access Photobucket, too, if you are interested in checking out what they have to offer.
I started making them to entertain myself and other besotted posters in Frodo's Harem, a thread at Khazad-dum (a Tolkien messageboard). The first ones I made were meant to be funny, since we were always talking about film Frodo's "art masterpiece"-classical beauty. But I soon found that I could make really beautiful images of him, too. Others were merely excuses to see him dressed in the costume and look of another era.
He really is a splendid model!
To make them, I used the photoshopping programs we already had loaded on our machine at home. For almost all the manipping I used the older, Microsoft Digital Image Pro 7.0, because I understood more easily how to find the things I needed on it. For almost all the cropping and re-sizing I used ACDSee 7.0 which does those functions more easily. ACDSee does everything the other program does and more, but I don't understand how to use most of its functions or how to access the tools. I don't really know how to use either of them properly; I just kept learning things as I fiddle. People who manip a lot seem to prefer PhotoShop.
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