first off i agree on that intelligence thing, book smarts don't mean shit if you don't have the common sense to actually know how to use them in the right way. being open minded to things aswell is definately good cause i've found people with close minds are the most ignorant on this planet. for example....matt (shin beast as i like to call the moron). i won't progress any further cause anyone who knows the guy fully well understands what i'm talking about
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ummm, speaking as a christian who knows the bible VERY well, your "fourth" comment made no sense. Maybe open up the book some time, to the old testament and you might be surprised at what it has to say about prostitution.
I don't know you, but you are talking about "christians" and how hypocritical they are, but I can gaurantee that you are no different. I am a christian and I am just about as hypocritical as the come (I'm sure William could give a lengthy testimony to prove it), but it has nothing to do with my religion, I am a hypocrite, because I am human. Since you were able to type that comment, I am assumming you are one too.
For our government to legalize prostitution would in no way make christianity "a complete and utter lie." If you would like me to site scriptures for you to show that you don't know what you are talking about, please ask. You will be surprised at what the bible has to say compared to what you THINK it says.
spoken like a true religious nut, and i'm sorry for as human as i am; i'll never be a hypocrite. i'll never go against what i say and do the fucking opposite. nor will i ever belief in something that i see for what it is, a complete and utter lie. just cause christianity is something the masses believe in does not and nor will it ever make it fact
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This is Hoyt Criss Hi william how are youcassi_clementOctober 17 2005, 18:20:13 UTC
Ok... 2 things. 1 you need to work on grammar. 2 where do i begin. ok well the bible is written by people congratulation we have know that for thousands of years. And yes people are flawed and blah blah blah. to the point at hand. Christianity is a monotheistic system of beliefs that center around Jesus Christ. The U.S. government was created by wealthy land owners and exporters/importers. They dumped there collective wealth into separating from Great Britain. Just because they were christian dosent mean our government is christian. Obviously you have never taken a U.S. history class of any kind ever. The Government and the religion of christianity are 2 different entites all together. Why they are so interconnected and dependant on each other is kind of confusing. You said that "being open minded to things as well is definitely good cause i've found people with close minds are the most ignorant on this planet." yet in the next post you say "common sense alone says there's nothing to be afraid of now, no devils, no demons, and
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Re: This is Hoyt Criss Hi william how are youmasterofthewebOctober 17 2005, 19:34:21 UTC
As much as I don't care about the hypocrisy and shit... there is one thing I need to correct you on... this nation was founded by Puritans... and the reason they were wealthy land owners is because of the Puritan work ethic... build a barn, save your money, repeat... they didn't believe in spending money on luxuries... so their families had alot of money saved up when they abandoned that way of thinking... but the nations was pretty much settled and build upon but Christan's...
Re: This is Hoyt Criss Hi william how are youstormshadow_redOctober 17 2005, 21:14:08 UTC
i'm not going to waste my time on a bitch i don't even know that's trying to start a fight just cause i don't believe in her stupid christian values. the fact you're trying to make ridiculous claims that i have bad grammar and that i need to over compensate shows how much offense you took at the fact i despise christianity.
this is just for you for turning a civil discussion into a full blown argument all cause of your ignorance. oh and congrats, by personally claiming those things you can kiss my ass; you're know under my classification of people who don't deserve to even exist on this planet.
Another reason I don't devuldge myself into Religion, right there.
But speaking from an Agnostic's point of view, Sure - I can honestly admit I believe in a higher power, and possibly a decendant (IE - God and his son, Jesus). But how can we be granted Free Will, and at the same time be expected to worship a Diety of "Salvation", when we must go against that Free Will and stick to moralls that are see fit, by this Diety?
*shrugs* Irregardless, a Christan human is said to respect another human's beliefs - even if they're not of the same measure.
hello this is hoytstormshadow_redOctober 17 2005, 23:34:08 UTC
yeah how are you doing. i believe i can shed some light on the situation of you question. free will and all. ok when you hear about how god made us into his image. well i believe that it was referring to the soul. well the soul needs things. wants things like love and happiness. some people need a little some people need a whole lot. god has this need of love too. so god created man. but if man could no choose what to love or hate then he would never truly love. so they need free will. so god gave us free will. but then god had the problem of if they only know the good then they will never know the bad and therefore can never truly love. so they need to eat the apple and all that but god couldent make them do and then kick them out of eden so they had to do it on there own. basically god wanted us to choose to love him but in doing so god only wanted good people to love him. so that set a few limitations ie morals and values coherent to god. god wanted it to be hard to lead the righteous life cause that way those who were righteous in
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Re: hello this is hoytstormshadow_redOctober 18 2005, 18:24:46 UTC
he was basically telling you to respect the fact people have different beliefs than you. if you don't believe i'm right, ask him you brainwashed little child you.
Re: This is Hoyt Criss Hi william how are youcassi_clementOctober 17 2005, 23:17:55 UTC
Hello im hoyt criss. Im a guy responding to this because cassi dosent care and because i dont have a LJ. So here we are. Ok You seem overly defensive. um projection can be a serious psychological problem. you seem to think that i am forcing some kind of christian values on you. Im just telling you of christianity which seem to really piss you off. You are and i acctually bash christianity all the time. im not even going to try to bring up a point or counter point. im just going to say it. you are a hypocrite. and your pissed cause i can prove it with your own words. second you are overreacting. third you are attacking me personaly by calling me a "retard" and you you seem to refer to the idea of god as a christien value. first of all it jewish and second you keep saying values when you mean to say ideas. You also like to say ignorance but can you even define it. oh and as for the grammar part "by personally claiming those things you can kiss my ass; you're know under my classification" the use of a semi colon and the fact that you use
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Re: This is Hoyt Criss Hi william how are youstormshadow_redOctober 18 2005, 18:16:34 UTC
are you really that stupid and ignorant or did you learn how to be that way? i'm not some 3rd grade dumbass who doesn't know god is a jewish conception. i said christian values, NOT who made god up you ignorant retard. where under VALUES is god covered? he's a freaking deity, not a value
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Re: This is Hoyt Criss Hi william how are youstormshadow_redOctober 18 2005, 18:22:24 UTC
oh and it isn't bad grammar you dipshit, just like everyone else i happen to make typos on the keyboard from typing too fast. on top of that i don't give a flying fuck to proof read what i type just for a few mistakes in spelling. seems someone's a fucking word nazi too, yet another thing you need to work on getting rid of from your personality.
Re: Now this is cassi.cassi_clementOctober 18 2005, 22:42:45 UTC
You seriously need to chill. No one is over here calling you names, trying to convert you, or even be mean. Your arguement was weak, and we only pointed it out. You say you are an open person but you can't even accept me for who I am. So what if I am a Messianic Jew, that is me, that is where my morals and beliefs lie. I have not once tried to get you to turn to Christianity or force my beliefs on you. I only corrected you on something you got wrong. Something that can be proven by facts based on the fact that they are written down in the bible (I am not meaning it by (it is in the bible so it is a fact, hopefully you understand the difference
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Re: Now this is cassi.stormshadow_redOctober 19 2005, 18:53:16 UTC
you two just don't seem to know when to leave a person alone do you. I never got anything wrong, you just say i did. i'm didn't say you were wrong though, i just thought your religion is stupid and ridiculous and just isn't something i see as truth or fact
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Maybe open up the book some time, to the old testament and you might be surprised at what it has to say about prostitution.
I don't know you, but you are talking about "christians" and how hypocritical they are, but I can gaurantee that you are no different. I am a christian and I am just about as hypocritical as the come (I'm sure William could give a lengthy testimony to prove it), but it has nothing to do with my religion, I am a hypocrite, because I am human. Since you were able to type that comment, I am assumming you are one too.
For our government to legalize prostitution would in no way make christianity "a complete and utter lie." If you would like me to site scriptures for you to show that you don't know what you are talking about, please ask. You will be surprised at what the bible has to say compared to what you THINK it says.
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this is just for you for turning a civil discussion into a full blown argument all cause of your ignorance. oh and congrats, by personally claiming those things you can kiss my ass; you're know under my classification of people who don't deserve to even exist on this planet.
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But speaking from an Agnostic's point of view, Sure - I can honestly admit I believe in a higher power, and possibly a decendant (IE - God and his son, Jesus). But how can we be granted Free Will, and at the same time be expected to worship a Diety of "Salvation", when we must go against that Free Will and stick to moralls that are see fit, by this Diety?
*shrugs* Irregardless, a Christan human is said to respect another human's beliefs - even if they're not of the same measure.
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Sorry bout that, will :P
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