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Posted Jun 5th 2007 10:00AM by Jonathan Berr
Filed under: Other issues, Law, Consumer experience, Competitive strategy, General Electric (GE), Marketing and advertising, Walt Disney (DIS), CBS Corp 'B' (CBS), News Corp'B' (NWS)
In a huge victory for Walt Disney Co.'s (NYSE: DIS) ABC, General Electric Co.'s (NYSE: GE), CBS Corp. (NYSE: CBS), and News Corp's (NYSE: NWS) Fox, a federal appeals court said the FCC didn't have the right to fine stations and networks for broadcasting obscene language.
Of course, the networks are rejoicing and the FCC is fuming but this is a victory for the First Amendment and common sense. Much as we can decry the coarseness of our popular culture, the fact is that everybody including the president and vice president says bad words from time to time. This isn't a good thing, but it's reality.
The existing standards made it impossible for the broadcast networks to compete against racier fare on cable channels. They can't show the real world in which people in high-stress jobs like police officers, combat soldiers and emergency room doctors do occasionally say a bad word.
FCC Chairman Kevin Martin told the New York Times that if the government couldn't prohibit foul language during prime time then "Hollywood will be able to say anything they want, whenever they want."That's ridiculous.
For one thing, the networks are in a fight to the death for every last viewer. It's against their economic interest to broadcast content just to offend people. But the networks are bound to offend some viewers by showing even critically praised programs including "Saving Private Ryan."
The public has the right to see the real world reflected on their broadcast airways even if it is at times uncouth.
Me: --It is the FIRST amendment for a reason. That should be all that needs to be said, but it never has been.
I have the rite to say what I want.
You have the rite to not like it and plug your ears.-but where is the line between ‘I don’t want to hear that it slightly offends me (and why? Just who are YOU that you haven’t heard the word ‘ass’ before anyway?)’ And ‘you are undeserving of speech because your so filthy and ignorant.’ Because we all know there IS a line somewhere.
It’s a valid argument-but not here, fought on about what we educated (mostly logical) people chose to watch (and pay for. Lets not forget that.) To relax after a hard day living a life where the rules are so much of the programming inside of us, we don’t even realize we lawfully live the routine.
Sometimes things in life are just so much more dramatic or excitable, or so awe inspiring that it just couldn’t be projected the same without the emphasis of a slang word properly placed. “Oh…. Shit.” is just one of a million examples.
Why is it different in Music, or television? It isn’t.
Not that I condone riddling a message with nothing but trash, but your smart enough to know the difference-and so are most Americans!
-For once, I love Americas Judicial system. I for one am having coke and smile about this outcome.
--Besides, isn't that what the whole TV program rating system is about? We've been battling this for years. What we as adults want to see VS. What’s good for our children to hear/see?
The fact is everyday on the street. In music, at the drug store, ice cream parlors or just from listing to the groups of people interact around them in there own home, children hear and see far worse than they are going to let slip past the mouth of Jack from 24< EVEN > If the world WAS ending if he didn't get there on time!!
Filed under: Other issues, Law, Consumer experience, Competitive strategy, General Electric (GE), Marketing and advertising, Walt Disney (DIS), CBS Corp 'B' (CBS), News Corp'B' (NWS)
In a huge victory for Walt Disney Co.'s (NYSE: DIS) ABC, General Electric Co.'s (NYSE: GE), CBS Corp. (NYSE: CBS), and News Corp's (NYSE: NWS) Fox, a federal appeals court said the FCC didn't have the right to fine stations and networks for broadcasting obscene language.
Of course, the networks are rejoicing and the FCC is fuming but this is a victory for the First Amendment and common sense. Much as we can decry the coarseness of our popular culture, the fact is that everybody including the president and vice president says bad words from time to time. This isn't a good thing, but it's reality.
The existing standards made it impossible for the broadcast networks to compete against racier fare on cable channels. They can't show the real world in which people in high-stress jobs like police officers, combat soldiers and emergency room doctors do occasionally say a bad word.
FCC Chairman Kevin Martin told the New York Times that if the government couldn't prohibit foul language during prime time then "Hollywood will be able to say anything they want, whenever they want."That's ridiculous.
For one thing, the networks are in a fight to the death for every last viewer. It's against their economic interest to broadcast content just to offend people. But the networks are bound to offend some viewers by showing even critically praised programs including "Saving Private Ryan."
The public has the right to see the real world reflected on their broadcast airways even if it is at times uncouth.
Me: --It is the FIRST amendment for a reason. That should be all that needs to be said, but it never has been.
I have the rite to say what I want.
You have the rite to not like it and plug your ears.-but where is the line between ‘I don’t want to hear that it slightly offends me (and why? Just who are YOU that you haven’t heard the word ‘ass’ before anyway?)’ And ‘you are undeserving of speech because your so filthy and ignorant.’ Because we all know there IS a line somewhere.
It’s a valid argument-but not here, fought on about what we educated (mostly logical) people chose to watch (and pay for. Lets not forget that.) To relax after a hard day living a life where the rules are so much of the programming inside of us, we don’t even realize we lawfully live the routine.
Sometimes things in life are just so much more dramatic or excitable, or so awe inspiring that it just couldn’t be projected the same without the emphasis of a slang word properly placed. “Oh…. Shit.” is just one of a million examples.
Why is it different in Music, or television? It isn’t.
Not that I condone riddling a message with nothing but trash, but your smart enough to know the difference-and so are most Americans!
-For once, I love Americas Judicial system. I for one am having coke and smile about this outcome.
--Besides, isn't that what the whole TV program rating system is about? We've been battling this for years. What we as adults want to see VS. What’s good for our children to hear/see?
The fact is everyday on the street. In music, at the drug store, ice cream parlors or just from listing to the groups of people interact around them in there own home, children hear and see far worse than they are going to let slip past the mouth of Jack from 24< EVEN > If the world WAS ending if he didn't get there on time!!