Improvement? Maybe?

Apr 03, 2009 23:12

Haven't done this in a while. Put comic pages, starting from er..2007 (ish?) to now next to each other in a feeble attempt to see if I've improved in the past few years.

Let's take a look.. )

comics, art

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charmwitch April 4 2009, 03:51:17 UTC
Wow, that's really weird, I had to disable Adblock in order to see the images! I don't have Photobucket disabled or anything. Odd ( ... )

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maiteoida April 4 2009, 04:21:04 UTC
No, please! TL;DR more, I do love it so :D ( ... )

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charmwitch April 4 2009, 04:34:23 UTC
Oh! We use posemaniacs all the time in one of my classes because live models are so expensive for two classes. Is there a community college nearby or not? I'm taking them at a local college because... I really want to see if I want to go into art or not you know? I think it's a great site to use to help, though. The real issue here is that YOU want to learn and take the initiative to improve. That's really the biggest obstacle ( ... )

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maiteoida April 4 2009, 04:46:47 UTC
Oh, I've always thumbnailed (I used to do the "first draft is my final draft!" think, but that really ended badly so now i tend to edit my drafts a lot, though it's usually for layout) but I've never really put thumbnails next to each other, if that makes sense. So rather than looking at the entire chapter as a whole unit, I do it piece by piece which is okay but doesn't give me a good idea about pacing. :/ Which is dumb, because that's what comics are all about lol. You'd think I would have noticed something so simple sooner, but there you go ( ... )

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pinkchan April 4 2009, 12:45:18 UTC
So rather than looking at the entire chapter as a whole unit, I do it piece by piece which is okay but doesn't give me a good idea about pacing.

WHAT.

GO READ BAKUMAN AND EDUCATE YO'SELF!!
The "name" (thumbnails of an entire chapter!!) is probably the MOST IMPORTANT PART of comicking! I forbid you from doing an entire chapter page by page ever again! MAN, no wonder the pacing of chapter 1 was so weird!

Construction (drawing the body) is the most important part of drawing, too!! I forbid you from not doing that for the next chapter, too!!

Do the next chapter of Overland with the script AND name (TWO DRAFTS AT LEAST) done before you even do the pencils! And when you do the pencils I demand you draw the body out and look up poses you don't know instead of changing the poses to those you're familiar with!

N-not trying to be harsh or discourage you here, but if you really want to improve, man! I didn't know you weren't doing this stuff, or I would've suggested it sooner!!

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maiteoida April 4 2009, 13:22:29 UTC
I-I've been drawing the body! For a few years now! Don't hurt me! D: I've at least become perspective enough to do that! But it hadn't even gotten to the point where I changed poses to make them more familiar with--I never even considered doing other sorts of poses because I think I didn't want to think about it.

Anyway! I going to do all of this for Chapter 2 so it'll be much better, I swear.

Haha, I feel so embarrassed now. But also, much better.

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charmwitch April 4 2009, 18:11:08 UTC
Sometimes it doesn't feel like the whole body is there, it may be due to how you draw clothing, though. It's very... floppish, if that makes sense. It doesn't fall on the body like it normally should sometimes. There are times I feel the clothing has no weight on the body, and since that covers up the biggest portion of your drawings for the most part, it's very easy to get lost on where your proportions are.

Something else that seems difficult is keeping on model. Even in comics, you have to think about that! :O How spaced the eyes are, the face, the height of characters. It can be difficult when everything is calculated together.

Don't be embarrassed, it's better to know and change than to not be told and continue to be the same.

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