Improvement? Maybe?

[maiteoida]

Haven't done this in a while. Put comic pages, starting from er..2007 (ish?) to now next to each other in a feeble attempt to see if I've improved in the past few years.

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[maiteoida]

Oh, I've always thumbnailed (I used to do the "first draft is my final draft!" think, but that really ended badly so now i tend to edit my drafts a lot, though it's usually for layout) but I've never really put thumbnails next to each other, if that makes sense. So rather than looking at the entire chapter as a whole unit, I do it piece by piece which is okay but doesn't give me a good idea about pacing. :/ Which is dumb, because that's what comics are all about lol. You'd think I would have noticed something so simple sooner, but there you go.

But yeah, I think you've hit the nail on the head about the pose thing. Also, I tend to get really frustrated when I can't get things right, which makes me even more reluctant to even start. It might be a good idea to return to doing some more standalone pictures to get over this complex...with comics it's easy to get into the habit of telling yourself that it's okay to tone down interesting poses as long as you get the main point of the page across, you know?

It's been a slow process though, it's taken me this long to get even to this point, where I even DO thumbnails or (try) to outline the body. But I'll get better, definitely.

I'm glad you saw, I was afraid that you didn't...D: But yes! 3rd place gets a cameo too, so if you want one of your characters to appear (or want to create one just especially for this), please let me know :D ♥

[pinkchan]

So rather than looking at the entire chapter as a whole unit, I do it piece by piece which is okay but doesn't give me a good idea about pacing.

WHAT.

GO READ BAKUMAN AND EDUCATE YO'SELF!!
The "name" (thumbnails of an entire chapter!!) is probably the MOST IMPORTANT PART of comicking! I forbid you from doing an entire chapter page by page ever again! MAN, no wonder the pacing of chapter 1 was so weird!

Construction (drawing the body) is the most important part of drawing, too!! I forbid you from not doing that for the next chapter, too!!

Do the next chapter of Overland with the script AND name (TWO DRAFTS AT LEAST) done before you even do the pencils! And when you do the pencils I demand you draw the body out and look up poses you don't know instead of changing the poses to those you're familiar with!

N-not trying to be harsh or discourage you here, but if you really want to improve, man! I didn't know you weren't doing this stuff, or I would've suggested it sooner!!

[maiteoida]

I-I've been drawing the body! For a few years now! Don't hurt me! D: I've at least become perspective enough to do that! But it hadn't even gotten to the point where I changed poses to make them more familiar with--I never even considered doing other sorts of poses because I think I didn't want to think about it.

Anyway! I going to do all of this for Chapter 2 so it'll be much better, I swear.

Haha, I feel so embarrassed now. But also, much better.

[charmwitch]

Sometimes it doesn't feel like the whole body is there, it may be due to how you draw clothing, though. It's very... floppish, if that makes sense. It doesn't fall on the body like it normally should sometimes. There are times I feel the clothing has no weight on the body, and since that covers up the biggest portion of your drawings for the most part, it's very easy to get lost on where your proportions are.

Something else that seems difficult is keeping on model. Even in comics, you have to think about that! :O How spaced the eyes are, the face, the height of characters. It can be difficult when everything is calculated together.

Don't be embarrassed, it's better to know and change than to not be told and continue to be the same.