What happens when you die? - (Part 1)
They say that when you die, your soul rises like dough. I hypothesize that this is only true for people with serious yeast infections. And some drunks. In any case, you get to loaf about and probably eat fish. Just a thought.
But this post is something to do with that. And, I have really been wanting to do at least one post on after-death, near-death or near-miss experiences, filled with lots of videos, but this isn't it. All those bookmarks are now dead to me, buried away in my broken laptop. Not that I would have posted such a thing by now, if I still had those bookmarks. After much thought and constipation, I've apparently reached the unenviable state of not doing anything. And it takes a lot of effort, I tell ya.
I am very interested in these experiences, reported by so many people, wherein the person's perspective detaches from his or her actual body, somewhere about the time of death, and looks back from a shelf, or from the sky. And this phenomenon is probably related to the experiences where the person recounts his or her whole life, and all the people met, and/or then travels to or through a light/tunnel where they meet someone concerned with the decision as to whether to finalise the death, or get the person back to life.
Do I believe these experiences have anything to do with reality, or are they just products of imagination or hallucination? I have answered this question before. I don't start of with (either) the premise that heaven, the soul, etc., actually exist - or the premise that these things do not exist. Over so many years, I have really stuck to the information provided in the accounts, without any superstitious bias. I am not on a crusade to paint the world in a New Age way that is ultimately concordant with the Catholic mythology I was pummelled with when I was young. Nor am I rebelling against that, try to disprove and deny it. Just as in politics, people of both caps tend to see me as being in the camp opposite to theirs, and this is just not true. I have really farther or deeper horizons than they might imagine.
And, basically, the rough conclusion to which I have come, forever tentatively, is that just as there is paradox throughout quantum nature, there is paradox here, most certainly. When people die, their subjective, delusional imaginations are actually the same thing as reality. [Insert the Double Paradox here]. The dream of going to heaven is same-as going to heaven, which, sorry to disappoint so many, appears to trivialise both vies. "That's just semantics! You're just playing games!" But, if people could only see past a lot of their narcissism and such, they would understand that both views are actually supported, and only annihilate each other if you want them to.
(They stick it to people like me. In the middle. On the margins. Witches. Scientists. Christians. Heathens. Outsiders. And even these people do it, sometimes. Even broken people can grow up to be fascist dictators. We will never get out of the damned Old Testament).
It is much like the abortion debate, (aka, bread-in-oven debate). Both sides are right, both sides are wrong, only one side is right, only the other side is right, and nothing is right. So, this kind of crazy Zen Taoism requires a lot of humility, which people have no interest in adopting, basically because they feel it would make them weak and vulnerable in the Mean World. And this fear is what is dividing people in this country, which leads much the rest of the world. I have a way out, at least philosophically, and maybe therapeutically. But, what usually happens is that the empire crumbles and some kind of new superstitious and paradoxical, but very moralising, religion emerges - too late for us. A canticle for Schrodinger.
*little saying goes here when i remember it*
Anyway, so that's the answer I have on the "near-death" phenomenon, in general. It doesn't mean that someone cannot CHOOSE to completely believe that he or she will travel to heaven and in FACT live eternally and, if things weren't just so damned perfect there, maybe come back and haunt people, just for kicks. And it doesn't means that someone else cannot CHOOSE to completely believe that when you die, you are the spiritual equivalent of a door-nail. In my understanding, both views are deficient. But, the whole point is that you can choose your views, and they are therefore valid - just as observation creates reality at the quantum level. Consciousness itself - a universal phenomenon - is a quantum dynamic, outside of time. Ultimately.
OK, so, now let's get back into a more pedantic look at these, "near death," phenomena... First of all, what is this thing where the person somehow leaves his or her body, and looks back - at their own body on the operating table, or wherever. The observation is coming from a perspective apart from what would occur if that body's eyes were open, right? Assuming that this actually happens, how is it possible?! Does the 'spirit' jump out of the body, and then go to a specific point in the room, or in the sky, and looks back from that single point (and from nowhere else)? Why - how? - how can a particular point be selected? Of all the infinite points for perspective, just one - (or a binary-point for stereophonic vision and listening) - how did ONE get selected? It seems that either the 'spirit' is really, actually in a specific location! - OR - all of this is just something conjured by the dying person's imagination.
But, the thing is, it has been demonstrated that real things were observed during such, 'expirations'. For example, one person who 'died-and-came-back' had a spirit-perspective from above a hospital, and reported seeing a shoe on a roof, in retrospect. People went up to the roof, and there was the shoe. Are all of these confirmations complete lies? Which would be a very easy stance to take. The way an avowed atheist will completely deny that any kind of spirituality is possible, and never reconcile this with quantum weirdness or salient consciousness experimental results or the deep, deep magic of mere biology itself. These sorts of atheists are as fundamentalist as fundamentalist religionists. Just as dangerous, if they want to convert their absolutist views into authoritative government.
I have seen countless videos of shining-globe UFO's, which usually attend mysteriously-appearing and extremely cryptic crop-circles, or other strange phenomena, (often near ancient places of human prayer or celebration, a la Stonehenge). I have spent a lot of time thinking about these mysteries. And I have never shied from accepting information which may contradict that these may be paranormal, or parascientific, phenomenon - such as: the orbs are Chinese lanterns or helium balloons or plastic grocery bags. Drones...
OK, I gotta rest my warping brain now....
Mull upon this: Where do hypotheses go when they die?
But this post is something to do with that. And, I have really been wanting to do at least one post on after-death, near-death or near-miss experiences, filled with lots of videos, but this isn't it. All those bookmarks are now dead to me, buried away in my broken laptop. Not that I would have posted such a thing by now, if I still had those bookmarks. After much thought and constipation, I've apparently reached the unenviable state of not doing anything. And it takes a lot of effort, I tell ya.
I am very interested in these experiences, reported by so many people, wherein the person's perspective detaches from his or her actual body, somewhere about the time of death, and looks back from a shelf, or from the sky. And this phenomenon is probably related to the experiences where the person recounts his or her whole life, and all the people met, and/or then travels to or through a light/tunnel where they meet someone concerned with the decision as to whether to finalise the death, or get the person back to life.
Do I believe these experiences have anything to do with reality, or are they just products of imagination or hallucination? I have answered this question before. I don't start of with (either) the premise that heaven, the soul, etc., actually exist - or the premise that these things do not exist. Over so many years, I have really stuck to the information provided in the accounts, without any superstitious bias. I am not on a crusade to paint the world in a New Age way that is ultimately concordant with the Catholic mythology I was pummelled with when I was young. Nor am I rebelling against that, try to disprove and deny it. Just as in politics, people of both caps tend to see me as being in the camp opposite to theirs, and this is just not true. I have really farther or deeper horizons than they might imagine.
And, basically, the rough conclusion to which I have come, forever tentatively, is that just as there is paradox throughout quantum nature, there is paradox here, most certainly. When people die, their subjective, delusional imaginations are actually the same thing as reality. [Insert the Double Paradox here]. The dream of going to heaven is same-as going to heaven, which, sorry to disappoint so many, appears to trivialise both vies. "That's just semantics! You're just playing games!" But, if people could only see past a lot of their narcissism and such, they would understand that both views are actually supported, and only annihilate each other if you want them to.
(They stick it to people like me. In the middle. On the margins. Witches. Scientists. Christians. Heathens. Outsiders. And even these people do it, sometimes. Even broken people can grow up to be fascist dictators. We will never get out of the damned Old Testament).
It is much like the abortion debate, (aka, bread-in-oven debate). Both sides are right, both sides are wrong, only one side is right, only the other side is right, and nothing is right. So, this kind of crazy Zen Taoism requires a lot of humility, which people have no interest in adopting, basically because they feel it would make them weak and vulnerable in the Mean World. And this fear is what is dividing people in this country, which leads much the rest of the world. I have a way out, at least philosophically, and maybe therapeutically. But, what usually happens is that the empire crumbles and some kind of new superstitious and paradoxical, but very moralising, religion emerges - too late for us. A canticle for Schrodinger.
*little saying goes here when i remember it*
Anyway, so that's the answer I have on the "near-death" phenomenon, in general. It doesn't mean that someone cannot CHOOSE to completely believe that he or she will travel to heaven and in FACT live eternally and, if things weren't just so damned perfect there, maybe come back and haunt people, just for kicks. And it doesn't means that someone else cannot CHOOSE to completely believe that when you die, you are the spiritual equivalent of a door-nail. In my understanding, both views are deficient. But, the whole point is that you can choose your views, and they are therefore valid - just as observation creates reality at the quantum level. Consciousness itself - a universal phenomenon - is a quantum dynamic, outside of time. Ultimately.
OK, so, now let's get back into a more pedantic look at these, "near death," phenomena... First of all, what is this thing where the person somehow leaves his or her body, and looks back - at their own body on the operating table, or wherever. The observation is coming from a perspective apart from what would occur if that body's eyes were open, right? Assuming that this actually happens, how is it possible?! Does the 'spirit' jump out of the body, and then go to a specific point in the room, or in the sky, and looks back from that single point (and from nowhere else)? Why - how? - how can a particular point be selected? Of all the infinite points for perspective, just one - (or a binary-point for stereophonic vision and listening) - how did ONE get selected? It seems that either the 'spirit' is really, actually in a specific location! - OR - all of this is just something conjured by the dying person's imagination.
But, the thing is, it has been demonstrated that real things were observed during such, 'expirations'. For example, one person who 'died-and-came-back' had a spirit-perspective from above a hospital, and reported seeing a shoe on a roof, in retrospect. People went up to the roof, and there was the shoe. Are all of these confirmations complete lies? Which would be a very easy stance to take. The way an avowed atheist will completely deny that any kind of spirituality is possible, and never reconcile this with quantum weirdness or salient consciousness experimental results or the deep, deep magic of mere biology itself. These sorts of atheists are as fundamentalist as fundamentalist religionists. Just as dangerous, if they want to convert their absolutist views into authoritative government.
I have seen countless videos of shining-globe UFO's, which usually attend mysteriously-appearing and extremely cryptic crop-circles, or other strange phenomena, (often near ancient places of human prayer or celebration, a la Stonehenge). I have spent a lot of time thinking about these mysteries. And I have never shied from accepting information which may contradict that these may be paranormal, or parascientific, phenomenon - such as: the orbs are Chinese lanterns or helium balloons or plastic grocery bags. Drones...
OK, I gotta rest my warping brain now....
Mull upon this: Where do hypotheses go when they die?