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Nov 08, 2004 20:26

I was talking to Patrick the other day about how “feminine” is viewed in so many different ways. For instance…some people assume that ALL women should have children and ALL women have a maternal instinct. Some people feel that of course not ALL women have a maternal instinct and therefore it would be a selfish act for them to have a child. ( Read more... )

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So ironic..... spunkeekitty November 9 2004, 13:46:22 UTC
I just had almost the same exact conversation with Jay today ! It started by him calling from work to see what I was doing. I was actually hanging border on the walls in our dining room and told him I wasn't sure if I liked it. He asked why ? And the only thing I could figure was because it had flowers on it !?!?! I'm not a very flowery girl. I don't like frills and all things pink. Does that make me not "feminine" or "girly" ? Sometimes I think so. And growing up I always loved my brother's toys and loved to get dirty....today I love Nascar, Football, Baseball, Hockey and yes still love a good mud pie ! There are lots of things I do or like that aren't "cool" to most girls. But that's what makes me unique....makes me, ME. I do have that maternal instinct and I love sappy movies ! I don't like dressing up but loved being in my wedding dress ! I believe everyone has a feminine side and a manly side being a woman or a man. We just tend to show one side more than the other, which ever that may be. So, "Yes Jamie" you ARE ( ... )

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Re: So ironic..... spunkeekitty November 9 2004, 13:52:13 UTC
I totally agree with Patrick's response ! Alot of woman feel they "have" to be feminine, those woman are most likely not comfortable with them selves and their life. Woman need to be who they want to be ! Not let society pick their destiny.

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Re: So ironic..... lyricangel November 9 2004, 15:56:04 UTC
I think you are very feminine in all ways. I think you are prettier and more feminine than a thousand "Nancys" combined. I think you like what you like, but I don't think you are manly at all. I think it was in the heart of a woman to play in the dirt....way before a man got the idea. Anyways...although I get your point exactly...I don't think either of us have "manliness" in us. I think being a woman is something sacred and pure and independent. I think if there are gods we are closer to them then men will ever be....This is what I think. Anyways...I don't have many friends...because I can't stand most people...but you are one in a million Shelby...and the "woman" in you shines through and through.

Jamie

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Very well put nitole_lynn November 9 2004, 18:10:30 UTC
I think that Patrick but it perfectly about you. You have your own feminine way about you. Which exceeds any girly fue fue girly girl beauty. And as for your love of cleaning, you know that I strongly respect that. YOu and patrick are a perfect compliment of each other. I love you both so much

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someatlguy November 9 2004, 21:45:29 UTC
Why do people spend so much time trying to figure out why they do or do not conform to a social stereotype? Stereotypes are just a side effect of people trying to understand life. It's a result of us trying to categorize and sort out shit in life.

Who cares if you cook dinner or have kids? Who cares if you don't? Is it really going to make any difference one way or another? In the big picture, I mean.

The only point in it all is cooking, birthing, raising children, primping, pampering, etc., are all forms of distractions.

The person who can successfully distract him or herself, consistently, will lead a fulfilled life.

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lyricangel November 10 2004, 13:10:55 UTC
eh. what do you know.

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someatlguy November 10 2004, 13:22:55 UTC
lol im so full of it sometimes

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smiles4life November 11 2004, 06:57:35 UTC
I think you are who you are inside. Screw all the stereo typical crap, inside a person’s soul is essentially who they are in life. I feel the reason WOMEN and MEN may fall into the stereo typical category is because they are not independent enough to get out of it, or they are physically, or mentally scared to be alone. But you and Patrick don't fall into these categories. You are both independent, and loyal, and just have wonderful strong loving souls. You both do what you want, and make everything go together perfectly.
So why should anything else matter? Women can be both girly, and feminists, and guys can be manly and cry, or clean, or cook. And you both are still considered what you are because of your souls. I think we are the way we are because of our dysfunctional family’s ways and our dad. LOL!
I love ya Jame!!!

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