1. It's also an objectively better party space than Paces. The Breakfast room is a bigger dance floor than that of Paces (or DU, for that matter), and the narrow staircases are no worse than the same in those buildings. It just also happens to be a much more popular party than, say, the International Club's. So the space issue, well... isn't.
2. Yes, and the police have marked it on their calendars for years now. And in the time I've been here, the only time I've heard of someone actually getting a citation was when they needed an ambulance, last year. And, yeah, the off-campus nature of the dorm so inconvenient that nobody comes, right?
3. It's still better than what happens to the dorm over the summer. Then, it's up to environmental services to clean the whole thing up. Which they may or may not decide to do. Or when the Frats decide to hold their "dorm olympics" across campus. ML isn't the only dorm where people don't like puke on their stairs or shattered blenders in front of their doors.
In any case, limiting access to the drinks by only keeping *one* bar (as it was done the first two years I was here) actually keeps the spills and puke to a relatively small area. I recall suggesting this to people.
4. Dude, *I've* peed in the bushes by ML before. When I lived there. And I seem to recall hearing something about MLers having sex in the lounges, last year. Maybe that should be fixed, but this behavior is so very barely worth getting riled up about.
The thing is, there *are* MLers who like the party. I mean, just because not everyone in Deshi likes to party (or honestly, to clean up afterwards) that doesn't mean that they never hold parties. After all, there are freshmen, who have no choice as to where they end up, and there are upperclassmen (like myself last year, as well as several among the basement folks) who either 1) didn't have a choice other than ML, or 2) picked into ML mainly because they had friends there, not to avoid socializing outside of the place.
Thing is, despite having friends in ML every year I've been here, the Halloween party has been a significant portion (usually on the order of a quarter) of the times I've visited the dorm, when I haven't lived there. And, moreover, it means I get to socialize with the non-Swil MLers I know, which happens even more rarely. And, having set up before and cleaned up after several parties while I've been here (including Alumni Weekend- now if you want to talk about some *serious* drunken slobs...), so I guess I'm less than phased by these things. But, I also know that there are a lot of people both within and without ML that do enjoy the party, so you're being a tad unfair here.
1. Yeah, Paces is a pretty bad place for parties too. I've never really understood why we have them there either. But regardless of whether or not you like Paces, the crush on the breakfast room stairs is still extremely slow and uncomfortable. Also, this year, someone fell down the narrow, steep breakfast room-basement stairs and got hurt. If it were just partygoers, then maybe (okay, probably not) I could understand; but what if you're an RA and you need to get from Point A to Point B really really fast?
2. At least one person got cited this year--the cops caught her peeing outside. As for the off-campus-ness, my point isn't that no one comes; it's that it would be more convenient for the party to happen on campus, and would eliminate the exasperating shuttle/bus system and the threat of citation, which affects partygoers' behavior a good deal.
3. If that's so, then what happens to the dorm over the summer ought to be fixed too--although I was only on campus for a few hours over the summer, so I wouldn't know. I think that all dorms have a right to have no vomit or discarded appliances in public places.
4. Peeing in the bushes is fine if the police aren't prowling around outside the dorm--as I mentioned earlier, someone got cited this year for that. Regardless of what MLers did in their own lounges, I continue to hold that it's a bad idea to have sex outside in a residential neighborhood crawling with the 5.0.
Yeah, I like the party just fine--but it's a matter of free will and personal space. Because there is this party every year, a kid in ML who doesn't want trash all over her environment, wants to be able to use her bathroom, and doesn't want to have to clean up 300 people's mess is robbed of that right. I understand that you've dealt with worse, but that doesn't change the fact that this party gets into the personal space of people who aren't as tough as you are.
As for socializing … well, there's no party this Saturday, or the next Saturday, or the Saturday after that, but you're still invited back.
Then what would be a good space for parties? The only spaces I can think of that might be better for a party are also better for other things (performances, large meetings -- i.e. Upper Tarble) that they really desperately try to keep parties from being held there so that stuff doesn't get ruined.
Okay, no more parties.
People like it because it's the one chance people have to see those weird folks in ML.
Exactly, because kids from ML always have and always will belong to one culture which doesn't otherwise party, have friends in other dorms, or otherwise spend time on campus, ever. Especially you. *points tentacle at random ML denizen* Thanks to the party, campus gets a great view of whoever is beating crowds back from the stairs, warding off the police, hauling drunks to the shuttle …. Partygoers with X-ray vision or the initiative to climb ricerurouni's fire escape can get an even better view of frustrated Swillies huddled in their dorm rooms, or escaping to campus to play board games. Yes, the ML Halloween party is a great way to bring campus and ML together: the ML kids go to campus, and campus takes their place at ML! We leave with only the best memories of one another--ML Basement residents will cherish heartily the souvenirs that partygoers leave on the bathroom floor, and after their introduction to scores of ML residents in the dark tumult of the breakfast room, campus residents are happy to come back week after week for the … decorations … and, uh, alcohol.
2. Yes, and the police have marked it on their calendars for years now. And in the time I've been here, the only time I've heard of someone actually getting a citation was when they needed an ambulance, last year. And, yeah, the off-campus nature of the dorm so inconvenient that nobody comes, right?
3. It's still better than what happens to the dorm over the summer. Then, it's up to environmental services to clean the whole thing up. Which they may or may not decide to do. Or when the Frats decide to hold their "dorm olympics" across campus. ML isn't the only dorm where people don't like puke on their stairs or shattered blenders in front of their doors.
In any case, limiting access to the drinks by only keeping *one* bar (as it was done the first two years I was here) actually keeps the spills and puke to a relatively small area. I recall suggesting this to people.
4. Dude, *I've* peed in the bushes by ML before. When I lived there. And I seem to recall hearing something about MLers having sex in the lounges, last year. Maybe that should be fixed, but this behavior is so very barely worth getting riled up about.
The thing is, there *are* MLers who like the party. I mean, just because not everyone in Deshi likes to party (or honestly, to clean up afterwards) that doesn't mean that they never hold parties. After all, there are freshmen, who have no choice as to where they end up, and there are upperclassmen (like myself last year, as well as several among the basement folks) who either 1) didn't have a choice other than ML, or 2) picked into ML mainly because they had friends there, not to avoid socializing outside of the place.
Thing is, despite having friends in ML every year I've been here, the Halloween party has been a significant portion (usually on the order of a quarter) of the times I've visited the dorm, when I haven't lived there. And, moreover, it means I get to socialize with the non-Swil MLers I know, which happens even more rarely. And, having set up before and cleaned up after several parties while I've been here (including Alumni Weekend- now if you want to talk about some *serious* drunken slobs...), so I guess I'm less than phased by these things. But, I also know that there are a lot of people both within and without ML that do enjoy the party, so you're being a tad unfair here.
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2. At least one person got cited this year--the cops caught her peeing outside. As for the off-campus-ness, my point isn't that no one comes; it's that it would be more convenient for the party to happen on campus, and would eliminate the exasperating shuttle/bus system and the threat of citation, which affects partygoers' behavior a good deal.
3. If that's so, then what happens to the dorm over the summer ought to be fixed too--although I was only on campus for a few hours over the summer, so I wouldn't know. I think that all dorms have a right to have no vomit or discarded appliances in public places.
4. Peeing in the bushes is fine if the police aren't prowling around outside the dorm--as I mentioned earlier, someone got cited this year for that. Regardless of what MLers did in their own lounges, I continue to hold that it's a bad idea to have sex outside in a residential neighborhood crawling with the 5.0.
Yeah, I like the party just fine--but it's a matter of free will and personal space. Because there is this party every year, a kid in ML who doesn't want trash all over her environment, wants to be able to use her bathroom, and doesn't want to have to clean up 300 people's mess is robbed of that right. I understand that you've dealt with worse, but that doesn't change the fact that this party gets into the personal space of people who aren't as tough as you are.
As for socializing … well, there's no party this Saturday, or the next Saturday, or the Saturday after that, but you're still invited back.
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Okay, no more parties.
People like it because it's the one chance people have to see those weird folks in ML.
Exactly, because kids from ML always have and always will belong to one culture which doesn't otherwise party, have friends in other dorms, or otherwise spend time on campus, ever. Especially you. *points tentacle at random ML denizen* Thanks to the party, campus gets a great view of whoever is beating crowds back from the stairs, warding off the police, hauling drunks to the shuttle …. Partygoers with X-ray vision or the initiative to climb ricerurouni's fire escape can get an even better view of frustrated Swillies huddled in their dorm rooms, or escaping to campus to play board games. Yes, the ML Halloween party is a great way to bring campus and ML together: the ML kids go to campus, and campus takes their place at ML! We leave with only the best memories of one another--ML Basement residents will cherish heartily the souvenirs that partygoers leave on the bathroom floor, and after their introduction to scores of ML residents in the dark tumult of the breakfast room, campus residents are happy to come back week after week for the … decorations … and, uh, alcohol.
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