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[lucetimods]

Sup guys, this is kind of delayed, my bad. Got a few things to discuss/mention to y'all, so eyes here for five!

1) Friend/Add Remove

The list for this cycle is below:

friend add thedicearecast

Comments

[meowzy_chan]

Question!

Imagine I haven't posted an entry in that month. Is the maximum of threads I can link still three? Because I have to say, that's kind of unfair. Entries can have a limitless amount of incredibly short threads, but if you don't post an entry you can only reference to that small amount of threads. I can understand what you're doing, implementing the 30 comment limit to entries as well, so that's very good. But it's still not balanced. People with entries still have a major advantage.

So just like last time, I'm going to once again suggest upping the thread number (just threads, no entry) to four. This is something that was seconded by at least two people on the last HMD, so it should have merit.

Also, I realize just how dumb and ungrateful this sounds. I'm just trying to help make things more fair. ^^'

[baka_jyanai]

Actually, people who use entries as their AC don't have much advantage at all if people thread drop in our posts. Which happens to me, and several others, a lot. Looking back on Patchouli's posts, over half of them wouldn't qualify under these new rules at all.

[meowzy_chan]

Actually, it depends how many people comment. Say there's five commenters, which means five threads. Each thread lasts 8 comments, which means 4 comments per thread for the person who posted. That's 20. Plus one comment for the entry itself.

21 comments. The other 9 could be supplemented with threads.

[baka_jyanai]

It needs to be thirty. And that's still unfair, imho. It is not our fault that other players thread drop us.

[meowzy_chan]

But... Isn't that what I just said? 21 + 9? Unless I'm misreading something and the entry needs to have 30 comments before it can count as activity, but I'm looking at this "combination of entry + 1 or 2 threads" option.

Also, I know it's not your fault. I just... don't know what can be done about this. An activity check means you need to show a certain amount of activity, which makes it hard to separate the actual slackers from people who want more activity, but suffer from threaddrops.

Maybe an option to show more than three/four threads if you can indicate that all those threads were dropped by the other person? But slackers could use that to their advantage. Hm...

[wizardoftheweek]

Other games I'm in require at least two forms of activity, be it a post and some threading, a post and a log, two posts, two logs, thread comments totaling anywhere from 20 to 30, etc etc.

Those work exceptionally better than this, and don't punish anyone who is being dropped on.

[meowzy_chan]

No, but they punish people who have reasons for commenting more than they post. I've never had a problem making AC, but I would if I had to always post instead of comment threads in other posts being enough.

[baka_jyanai]

I'm not following your logic, anon. You still CAN use your current method, from what I understand.

[unseenspy]

Actually, I think the entry would count, regardless of how many small threads it would contain, because it would still be only one link for the mods to click on. Which is part of the reason they made this change in the first place, to cut back on the number of links they'd have to click.

[wizardoftheweek]

I'm sorry, but... does it REALLY make any difference how many threads they need to click? A game twice this size allows for unlimited number of links needed to make a thread comment count limit and handles itself just fine.

[unseenspy]

Uh...that would be a question better directed towards them. But I recall them saying that this was one of the reasons they limited the number of links.

To quote a previous post...

REASONING FOR THIS: the post is self explanatory, but for the threads? When people fail or come close to failing an AC, it often comes down to us getting five links to short, newly started or dropped threads, sometimes as small as 2-3 comments long. It gets damn tedious to check all of those threads. So we figured- limit the number of threads, lengthen the requirements and the timeline. Fair enough trade? We hope so.

[wizardoftheweek]

Yeah, that's still punishing everyone to weed out a few. And my point still stands that if others could do it, if I could do it, so can they.

[mountain_sage]

My point is that the journal entry would be the best bet for a lot of us in passing an AC, because of the potential to generate enough comments in one link.

However, I share your concern about the entries not generating enough tags and/or getting threaddropped by other players. (The latter doesn't happen to me so much, as I typically suffer the lack of tags to begin with.)

[meowzy_chan]

But that's exactly my problem. If you manage to post an entry, you can get away with a LOT of short threads because it counts as "one link". If you don't manage to post an entry, you're limited to those three.

[unseenspy]

I think it's fair enough to attempt one post per month, is it not?

[meowzy_chan]

Sure. But a lot of people will have to resort to "[Character A is standing outside, picking his nose. Someone please talk to him?]", because coming up with interesting entries is hella difficult for the anti-social characters.

I know I'll have to do that for Lambda.