wikki wham wham waffleblankpsycheJuly 26 2003, 20:51:46 UTC
i would certainly agree with what you've said above, lou, and, without being offensive to anyone, would both say that a) the line between discovery and stagnation is a very fine one, especially with drugs, and b) one really can't comment on the state one's mind is under the influence of an untried substance. I would offer that smokng tends to focus your thoughts, removing the inhibitions, and a lot of reality along with them, but this does not make it a pure, seperate state of mind. This is not to say that smoking can bring about nothing but stagnation; but it very obviously will change your perspective on things. Emotions run stronger, at least in me, which, given the scope ofwhat is amplified, can be good or bad. Massages feel even better than usual, for example, but i've also been convinced that i was dying for a solid 30-45 minutes, which was not something i'd like to repeat, but i do think it's opened at least one door into a seperate view.
contrary to zach's roomate, there are no 'wrong opinions', and therefore one can never say that someone who disagrees with them is wrong in a conflict of opinion. yes, hallucinogens, etc are not for everyone, but more than opinion would be necessary to justify their 'wrongness'. Personally, i smoked, and continue to, because i find it to be a relaxing, heightened state of sorts. I do not seek this feeling out to the extent that i would try harder drugs, for example meth, coke, heroin, because the risks outweigh the 'benefits' in my mind. this does not make people who decide to partake of these wrong, they just disagree with me.
whether fasting, meditating, using drugs, or any other of the countless ways to expand one's perception of reality, there will inevitably be some who agree with it and some who do not. as you very well stated, drugs may be considered the lazy man's approach, as they require far less work or discipline to attain a more tainted state. this does not make it wrong.
which ties into my inevitable drinking vs smoking question; if one does drink but does not smoke, or vice versa, what is the reasoning behnid it? i have had numerous (no, i am not pointing fingers) responses of "weed is much worse for you than beer", and truth be told, i'd say lung cancer isn't a whole lot more dangerous than cirrhosis or perhaps the millions of people who die due to OD's or drunk driving accidents. there has never been a death conclusively tied to marijuana use. this, as well, does not make smoking better than drinking, but i would offer that there is no more inherent danger in smoking thn drinking, for instance. Heroin, meth, and coke are bad for you, straight up, though. check the facts on those... they're quite sickening.
One walks the lines of drug use primarily alone, and thusly the choices they make should only be for themselves. Some truly beautiful works have come out of drug-induced minds, like Poe's opium-addled writings, and of course there has been a lot of real shit thrown out by people stoned off their ass. The same holds true in both cases for people who are under no influence. A perception of reality by one on drugs will not necessarily be the same as another on drugs, just as one's percepton is never equal to another un-influence person's. I have seen the world through weed-tinted lenses, and to accurately gauge how to react to it it was necessary to have seen it, and thusly made an informed decision about it. I do not support half-assed ventures into drug use, because it can affect you in poor ways, but i even moreso do not support the judgement of any action before one has experienced it firsthand.
contrary to zach's roomate, there are no 'wrong opinions', and therefore one can never say that someone who disagrees with them is wrong in a conflict of opinion. yes, hallucinogens, etc are not for everyone, but more than opinion would be necessary to justify their 'wrongness'. Personally, i smoked, and continue to, because i find it to be a relaxing, heightened state of sorts. I do not seek this feeling out to the extent that i would try harder drugs, for example meth, coke, heroin, because the risks outweigh the 'benefits' in my mind. this does not make people who decide to partake of these wrong, they just disagree with me.
whether fasting, meditating, using drugs, or any other of the countless ways to expand one's perception of reality, there will inevitably be some who agree with it and some who do not. as you very well stated, drugs may be considered the lazy man's approach, as they require far less work or discipline to attain a more tainted state. this does not make it wrong.
which ties into my inevitable drinking vs smoking question; if one does drink but does not smoke, or vice versa, what is the reasoning behnid it? i have had numerous (no, i am not pointing fingers) responses of "weed is much worse for you than beer", and truth be told, i'd say lung cancer isn't a whole lot more dangerous than cirrhosis or perhaps the millions of people who die due to OD's or drunk driving accidents. there has never been a death conclusively tied to marijuana use. this, as well, does not make smoking better than drinking, but i would offer that there is no more inherent danger in smoking thn drinking, for instance. Heroin, meth, and coke are bad for you, straight up, though. check the facts on those... they're quite sickening.
One walks the lines of drug use primarily alone, and thusly the choices they make should only be for themselves. Some truly beautiful works have come out of drug-induced minds, like Poe's opium-addled writings, and of course there has been a lot of real shit thrown out by people stoned off their ass. The same holds true in both cases for people who are under no influence. A perception of reality by one on drugs will not necessarily be the same as another on drugs, just as one's percepton is never equal to another un-influence person's. I have seen the world through weed-tinted lenses, and to accurately gauge how to react to it it was necessary to have seen it, and thusly made an informed decision about it. I do not support half-assed ventures into drug use, because it can affect you in poor ways, but i even moreso do not support the judgement of any action before one has experienced it firsthand.
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