the 100-day Lj plan

Dec 12, 2007 19:53

Lj has a 100-day plan, which mentions that in the next 90 days (from today; the post's date was 12/02/2007) the adult-content system will be improved. this was posted in lj_2008 some time back, so i'm not sure how many of us caught this.

the plan also lists several other feature improvements, including establishing a "clear set of policy guidelines". ( Read more... )

sup, open letter

Leave a comment

Comments 30

cdaae December 13 2007, 01:44:47 UTC
I suggest posting it here.

As well as the issues you've already mentioned, there has been a lot of unhappiness about the way the abuse prevention operates for some years. I'd like to suggest including a request for more transparency in the APT's operations - primarily, LJ users should be able to see the discussion relating to their case, how the decisions were reached, if they question them. Although in some cases the APT has to follow clear guidelines (when a DMCA complaint is filed, for instance), in cases where it comes down to interpretation, the standard response of "we looked at it and decided it broke the rules" really doesn't wash when they won't explain why.

I've seen numerous examples of this and would be happy to list some tomorrow, but it's nearly 2 am so I must get to bed now!

Reply

thebipolarcat December 13 2007, 02:13:18 UTC

i will be sure to include your thoughts in the open letter, and look forward to reading your list. (:

Reply


pyrop December 13 2007, 02:02:34 UTC
brad hates being treated as the Lord God of Livejournal To Whom All Prayers Should Be Addressed. If you read his journal, you find that he really doesn't care about a lot of this stuff and wishes people would stop asking him about it. I suggest writing an open letter to the entire advisory board instead.

Reply

thebipolarcat December 13 2007, 02:12:28 UTC

it's more of a courtship to basically have the same sort of relationship as we have with marta; our voices will be heard by someone. it may/may not be passed on but at least we tried.

also, if brad didn't want to be involved, he should not have joined the Lj advisory board that he mentioned. it may be out of his hands, but it is worth a shot--it's no more worthless a try than it is to talk to marta or any of the other staff members. (:

Reply

crazykimmy December 13 2007, 03:32:00 UTC
I second this. I feel strongly that any open letter in the community should address all members of the advisory board. I believe we are actually more likely to find an ally outside of brad for just the reason listed above.

And that's the other question: is this a personal letter? If so, will each member post their own open letter to LJ or would it be better as being from the community?

As a personal letter, do whatever you want.

Reply

thebipolarcat December 13 2007, 03:43:27 UTC

a personal letter from all of us (meaning, anyone who wants to chime in).

Reply


ficangel December 13 2007, 02:44:31 UTC
I would suggest posting it here.

please be sure to mention what you are unhappy with and why.

Completely apart from just flat disliking SUP's political ties, I would like to know what the standards for adult content are and how they are reached. It's the same question that I've been asking since May, as it seems to change day by day dependent upon what the mood of the staff is at that particular moment. If LJ wants to start introducing some harder content rules, then they need to be transparent so that they can be understood and followed.

Reply

thebipolarcat December 13 2007, 03:44:11 UTC

great suggestion, and thank you.

Reply


gamahucheur December 13 2007, 03:26:44 UTC
My suggestion is that you prepare to be disappointed. You may think that your expectations are limited, but I think that they are not nearly low enough.

Reply

thebipolarcat December 13 2007, 03:45:50 UTC

i don't think i can get any more disappointed, considering the way things have gone downhill since i joined under stranglingivy in 2004. i just don't want to leave a place i've loved so long without at least trying to do something for it.

Reply

gamahucheur December 13 2007, 04:28:36 UTC
And I think that it is still possible that it the most egregious policies of SixApart will be reversed by SUP Fabrik's new LiveJournal, Inc. But I don't think that brad is going to be particularly helpful. I hope that, if you are severely disappointed by him, you won't equate this with a lack of hope for LJ.

(And if you aren't disappointed at all with him then you can come back here and say Neener neener! to me.)

Reply

thebipolarcat December 13 2007, 06:14:43 UTC

if you read Lj's 100-day plan, it does not give any indication of any plans by SUP to get rid of anything. ):

as for brad, i say divide and conquer. (:

Reply


heathabear December 13 2007, 04:11:43 UTC
Probably best to post it here.

I'm just unhappy with being treated like the advertiser matters more than the customer (us). Especially after so many years of paying for this service, it's scary to imagine that everything could be jeopardized so easily. When criteria for flagging posts as inappropriate is a broad as "offensive material" (ie, anything to anyone) or "illegal material" (that mp3 you posted to share with your friends), it doesn't seem so far-fetched that our freedom of speech is seriously threatened.

Reply

gamahucheur December 13 2007, 04:27:28 UTC
From a business perspective, the advertisers are customers.

Those with paid accounts are, of course, also customers. Those with Plus accounts are product delivered to the advertiser-customers, as is anyone not logged-in. And everyone who makes entries or comments is providing content (of varying value).

Reply

thebipolarcat December 13 2007, 06:21:37 UTC

thanks for your input. i'll definitely include it.

scares me, too.

Reply

crazykimmy December 13 2007, 17:36:17 UTC
Not to pick, but there's a legal issue of they must do about the mp3 you share with your friends. It's a violation of copyright and is covered under the law. I can see their point with infringement issues--there are monetary risks for them as an incorporated entity.

OTOH, I'd prefer they follow the letter of the DCMA, rather than aggressively over apply it, but this appears to be the trend in corporate websites with violating content on their servers.

Reply


Leave a comment

Up