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little_ozzo

Six Sleeps To Christmas!

Dec 19, 2009 15:53

It’s six sleeps to Christmas! And therefore, it is time to spread some holiday cheer, because I had a pretty great week and full excitement has just hit me this weekend. I have my pyjamas on, Christmas songs playing on YouTube, and it’s been snowing! I love Christmas time!

( Firstly, the non-NCIS-related stuff, because I’ll get all rambly on that later! )

ncis episodes, life outside of lj, ncis general chatter

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karababe_64 December 22 2009, 02:04:31 UTC

Ok, I'm back with NCIS comments (I banned myself from Stargate until I've caught up on everything I've been ignoring :-)

So Faith. Like I siad before I was bored for most of it. The case didn't get me interested at all. I guessed it would be the brother as soon as I saw him and I never get things like that right. Having Jackson back was nice though. I felt sorry for him for most it. Do you watch Bones? RW played Booth's grandfather recently and also burnt down part of the house. I wonder if he is getting sick of being cast as the old man who can't manage to a light a fire with out it getting out of control. :-) I loved the scene with Jackson and Ducky. Gibbs worst nightmare! And its interesting to see the softer, more patient side of Gibbs come out when dealing with his father ( ... )

little_ozzo December 22 2009, 11:48:31 UTC

Yay! I totally understand the SG love, but I'd miss the Tony chatter! :-)

I haven't heard many people say they didn't guess that the brother did it, LOL, and the plot was definitely clunky and not great! But I loved seeing Jackson so much that I noticed the plot's failings even less than usual, I was all about the father/son relationship. I just loved how Gibbs was in this episode; so far this season I've thought that he really seems to be trying to reconnect with his team, in a clunky, apple-cidery kind of way, and in this episode he was actually offering to talk to his dad. It was awkward and uncomfortable, but it was so nice to watch him try to do that, while still knowing it wasn't going to be easy. Just every second they were on screen, I was in love. ROFL at poor RW, though, I wonder if at Christmas he'll offer to help out with the cooking or the fire and his family will be all, "No! No! Just relax, as far away from flammable objects as possible!"

The Tony and McGee stories were totally aimed just at making us go awwww! but I ( ... )

karababe_64 December 22 2009, 13:52:48 UTC

If I can guess the bad guy then its bad, I never get it right so most of the time I don't even bother trying. I need to borrow some of your attitude, lately I've been focusing to much on the negaitives and they have started to overrule the positives. Oh yeah, Gibbs trying to talk to his father made me cringe, but in that good awkard way where you feel for the character and not the bad writing way. I think its a sign that he has really realised how important family is, and by extension the team. I just wish we knew why he's suddenly had this realisation ( ... )

little_ozzo December 22 2009, 14:39:04 UTC

I'm completely the same, I can never guess who the bad guy is. I make the excuse that I'm too focused on the characters or Tony's face, but really it's a total lack of observation skills! I think it's easy to get caught up in the negatives, especially when really we're pretty much watching the show really closely. So all the flaws are magnified along with the great stuff, and it's more upsetting to see because I think we really want to love our show! It might be one of the reasons that I loved the episode so much, because even though it was sometimes hard to watch Gibbs and his dad, it was so well done and affecting that for me, it made up for the plot failings! But I can be annoyingly Pollyanna, because there are flaws with the show and I'm awful for just ignoring them ( ... )

karababe_64 December 23 2009, 05:51:03 UTC

It certainly doesn't help that a few of the dominate members of the fandom (on LJ especially) have become rather negative recently and I think that is affecting me. We need more people like you to bring back the positives of the fandom ( ... )

little_ozzo December 23 2009, 10:10:53 UTC

My reasons for the positivity are often shallow (Tony Tony Tony), LOL, but I am always happy to provide squee! It does upset me when some of the people who are very well-known in fandom aren't pleased by what the show is doing, because then I don't want them to leave, and want the show to do something to make them stick with the fandom! Luckily, my main quibble with the show is that there really isn't enough shirtless Tony ( ... )

Warning: A McGee fan is in the house! (Part 1) schtroumph_c December 23 2009, 20:08:53 UTC

I have no idea if the writers meant for it to come across like it did for me, or if it was an accident,You know, the best way to check is to have the point of view of someone who doesn't see Tony like that but has the same pedestal for another character, McGee. He's so often ignored when you could find some angst for him too! (I'm not a whumper, but these days, I'm wishing so hard to have him actually hurt on the show. I love the luck he has, but I want to see the team worried about him, and have Sean act something new. Give him his SWAK/Hiatus, SB!!!! Caged wasn't enough ( ... )

Re: Warning: A McGee fan is in the house! (Part 1) little_ozzo December 23 2009, 21:55:01 UTC

Yay! McGee chatter, brilliant - and rambling, too - I love a long discussion! :-D (Apologies in advance for my typical lack of coherence ( ... )

Re: Warning: A McGee fan is in the house! (Part 1) schtroumph_c December 29 2009, 20:18:31 UTC

Well, he's the geek, he's not as angsty and not classically cute/hot as the others. It's shallow, but I'm pretty sure it plays on him being ignored from the press and the writers.

Also, how interesting is it that at this stage in the show, McGee is approaching the level of experience that Tony would have had just before the show itself started, give or take, like, a year? And to be fair, DiNozzo seemed an awful lot more happy-go-lucky back then than he does now, IMO.I hope they point that in the show, just to have a little moment from Tony or Gibbs that Baby grew up, readjust the view. Like when your kid is starting to drive when he was still in diaper yesterday. Or McGee having a work opportunity for a week or two and Tony pushing him to accept and fretting during his absence, calling him as often as possible (he takes turns with Abby ( ... )

Re: Warning: A McGee fan is in the house! (Part 1) little_ozzo December 29 2009, 22:46:33 UTC

I absolutely hate agreeing with you - not because you're wrong in any way, but because you're right and it's true: I think he isn't put front and centre because the conventionally hot ones are always put first by the show writers and producers et al. I think McGee's hot, but I have to admit the foundation of my love for Tony is based on his stupidly perfect features. I'm a sucker for the conventionally, symmetrically attractive guy. But I think McGee's such a hottie, and awesome, too, and shouldn't be limited in the way that he sometimes is.

I'd love to see him have like, a really particular strength. I know he's the techno-expert (techspert?) and he's ace at that, but he was also pretty effective in the couple of interrogations he has done - I loved him reading out the penalties in that dry, terrifying manner. That could work on so many people! But he could also transfer his skills to being very knowledgeable about, say, bullet trajectory. I could really imagine him going on courses to further his career, too. I'd like to see more ( ... )

Warning: A McGee fan is in the house! (Part 2) schtroumph_c December 23 2009, 20:09:59 UTC

And Gibbs is back, and he's down the ladder. Tony trusted him enough to take his place as Boss, and now, he's still the probie, and his favourite target, and it's like it never happened. In short, it sucks. But, hey, it's still okay. Some good days. And money. And a sister who may have kill someone, and finding where his loyalty are. Her, before Gibbs. Family, before the rules. But Gibbs understands.

And then someone use his book, his favourite hobby for years, to kill. Abby was in danger because of him, and I'm sure he think about it every time he sit in front of his typewriter.

Then, it's La Grenouille, and Tony is not dead, thank you very much, so stop telling that Ziva. It's a new Tony, one he doesn't know very well, one who… pranks him, insult him, and have fun with him, and he'll forget his vertigo for him, and things are like usual ( ... )

Re: Warning: A McGee fan is in the house! (Part 2) little_ozzo December 23 2009, 22:38:01 UTC

Gibbs comes back, and suddenly Tim gets demoted. This is not how things are supposed to go. This is a threat to the career he has chosen, and worked so hard for, and loves even though it's really fucking hard, sometimes. And Tony, even though he's been a good boss who trusted him, was still annoying and obnoxious because, well, that's Tony, and now he's been demoted too and who does he lash out at? Tim. It's always Tim he lashes out at, and I think that's so interesting, because maybe Tim is the only one he can snap at? Gibbs is senior, and in the three main instances where I've thought Tony was out of line with Tim (Kate, Gibbs' margarita safari and return, and Jenny), Gibbs has been hurting too, so that puts him out of the firing line. Kate and Ziva are women, and could both kick Tony's ass, so he's left with McGee to snap at. Which is crap for McGee, because Tony, over those four months, has become the person he turns to and looks up to the most. He deals with it, because he loves his job and these people and he is pleased to have ( ... )

Re: Warning: A McGee fan is in the house! (Part 2) schtroumph_c December 29 2009, 20:21:39 UTC

His only chances of leading while staying in the team are if Gibbs and Tony can't do it, and it would only means bad things. There must be a little bit of embarrassment or awkwardness that every good thing happening to him is linked to something bad (he escaped Ari's bullet, Kate is killed, he has the envelope in his hand, Tony is the one with the plague, his advancements are all due to someone close leaving them, his best work alone was because a mother killed someone to protect her daughter and he was a hostage in jail ( ... )

Re: Warning: A McGee fan is in the house! (Part 2) little_ozzo December 29 2009, 23:04:33 UTC

That's so true, I hadn't even thought of that! Every single one of McGee's career advancements have been under the shadow of something horrific happening to the team - and that's just awful. I think that'd go even further to supporting the idea that he does feel like he has something to prove. I speculate a lot on that, and tend to characterise it as feeling like maybe he's let someone like his father (I'm a sucker for daddy issues!) down in his past, but I think he also likes to prove to himself that he's good at his job in his own right, without having any of his achievements blighted by negative events at the same time, or subsequent demotions ( ... )

Warning: A McGee fan is in the house! (Part 3) schtroumph_c December 23 2009, 20:11:48 UTC

Then, Rivkin/Tony/Ziva. He has absolutely no hesitation about his position here. He's on Tony's side, and think Ziva will be too, except she's not, and she's still in Israel, and is not coming back.

And like with Gibbs's hiatus retirement holidays, he beneficing of it. It's just the two of them, now, with Gibbs being strange about something, probably Ziva, and Tony is down, and Abby too, and his place is more important. Even better, with Tony's broken arm, most of the field work is down to him ( ... )

Re: Warning: A McGee fan is in the house! (Part 3) little_ozzo December 23 2009, 22:52:43 UTC

I have to say I don't think Tony has ever questioned McGee's capabilities as an investigator. He makes him do the crappy jobs he doesn't want, and he teases him about lotion (which isn't particularly harsh or surprising, really, I don't think) and things like that, but he has consistently given McGee credit where credit is due from the start. I'd maybe consider that it might feel like Tony does that, to McGee, because he rags on him about just about everything else, but really he's pretty honest when he talks about McGee's agent skills ( ... )

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