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Meta: Mickey and Martha

Aug 03, 2013 02:00

I am at a complete loss as to why Doctor Who Fans actually have to flounder for a "cogent" explanation for why, after this man and woman got a look at each other, they didn't immediately want to know the other better.

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thedorkygirl August 3 2013, 16:20:17 UTC

I'm at a complete loss as to understand why they should?

viomisehunt August 3 2013, 16:33:48 UTC

They are both attractive people, free and single, with common interest--aliens/space travel. They look absolutely fabulous together. Noel and Freema are good friends, so if time and schedules would have allowed it, I think they would have had great chemistry together ( ... )

tempestsarekind August 4 2013, 02:29:43 UTC

Part of the problem, for me, is that they *aren't* both single - when we see Martha in "Journey's End," she's still engaged to Tom. And as lazily scripted as Martha/Tom is, Martha/Mickey is even worse - they don't exchange a single line of dialogue during that episode, yet the next time we see them, they're married???

So yeah, I can come up with reasons that they could get together, but there's no on-screen interaction for me to base that on. If people want to ship them, they should feel free to have fun with that, but I need *something* actually textual to base my shipping on. *shrug*

(I basically pretend like that whole scene during "The End of Time" didn't happen, though - why on earth would Martha Jones, who makes such a point of *not* carrying a gun when she worked for UNIT, become a gun-toting alien fighter??? What sense does that even make? The Sontaran resistance would still need doctors, after all.)

viomisehunt August 4 2013, 14:54:05 UTC

Actually he said about Four words: okay he addressed them to Jack and Martha, but we do see them together.

http://youtu.be/OEgzQvH_gtQ

It is truly telling of fans expectations (and lack of) that this video is called Martha and Jack leaving the TARDIS,
as this scene actually presents us with Martha, Mickey, and Jack leaving the TARDIS to start a new path together. In the end we see Mickey put his arm around Martha as they fade into Wales, not Jack. Of course this is because Noel and Freema are friends and were friends before Doctor Who, as seen with Noel's video diary of Journey's End. But what we clearly see in this video is that Martha and Mickey will probably go to work a while with Jack at TORCHWOOD.

I think some forward thinking fans actually took matters from this very scene and speculated, since Jack is with Ianto, and he treats Martha like his sister, that Mickey would take the opportunity to get to know Martha better. And why shouldn't he? She's Martha Jones ( ... )

tempestsarekind August 4 2013, 21:15:10 UTC

Well, she's still wearing her engagement ring in "The Stolen Earth," so even if no one's mentioned Tom, she's still presumably engaged to him. But my point is that no matter what we can imagine *might* transpire between Mickey and Martha in the future, we're given pretty much nothing in-text to go on. Which, like I said - if people want to ship them, that's totally cool! Plenty of fans have shipped characters who don't even exist in the same narrative universe! But I also get why people might need to see some actual on-screen interaction to think, "hey, I want to ship those two ( ... )

viomisehunt August 5 2013, 06:27:49 UTC

Well, she's still wearing her engagement ring in "The Stolen Earth," so even if no one's mentioned Tom, she's still presumably engaged to him. I didn't notice her wearing a ring. I'll have to watch her scenes again.

we're given pretty much nothing in-text to go on No we don't see a romance, but it seems inaccurate to say we don't see them together or that Mickey doesn't talk to her. We do see them together, he not only talks with her they are close and comfortable enough with each other for Mickey to put his arm around her and she doesn't tell him to shove off. At this point, although unfortunately we don't see a scene on the TARDIS where Mickey and Martha meet or are introduced (unless we watch the video Diary and that is Noel and Freema, rather than Mickey and Martha) ,their ease with other would indicate that they didn't stand around the TARDIS too afraid to go over and talk to each other. Many of us--and I'm one--looked at that scene and found it easy to speculate on what would happen with Martha and Jack's future, and ( ... )

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