Meta: Mickey and Martha
I am at a complete loss as to why Doctor Who Fans actually have to flounder for a "cogent" explanation for why, after this man and woman got a look at each other, they didn't immediately want to know the other better.
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They are both attractive people, free and single, with common interest--aliens/space travel. They look absolutely fabulous together. Noel and Freema are good friends, so if time and schedules would have allowed it, I think they would have had great chemistry together.
We see them walk off with Jack at the end of Journey's End. Is it truly so hard to believe that Mickey wouldn't find Martha physically attractive or vice versa, and they might actually be curious about each other as they are the only POC in the Doctor's circle of friends? A lot of people --me included--were more focused on the fact that Jack and Martha spent most of their on-screen time holding hands, and many of us were big Mack shippers, but there was Ianto. And well, we didn't see Tom any more because he was busy terrorizing Gwen on Merlin. :-D But what we seem not to have taken in, was that it is unlikely that "No more hugging" Mickey Smith was in a rush to catch up with Jack, especially as he wormed his way in between Jack and Martha--rushed from the TARDIS to catch up with "Jack".
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So yeah, I can come up with reasons that they could get together, but there's no on-screen interaction for me to base that on. If people want to ship them, they should feel free to have fun with that, but I need *something* actually textual to base my shipping on. *shrug*
(I basically pretend like that whole scene during "The End of Time" didn't happen, though - why on earth would Martha Jones, who makes such a point of *not* carrying a gun when she worked for UNIT, become a gun-toting alien fighter??? What sense does that even make? The Sontaran resistance would still need doctors, after all.)
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http://youtu.be/OEgzQvH_gtQ
It is truly telling of fans expectations (and lack of) that this video is called Martha and Jack leaving the TARDIS,
as this scene actually presents us with Martha, Mickey, and Jack leaving the TARDIS to start a new path together. In the end we see Mickey put his arm around Martha as they fade into Wales, not Jack. Of course this is because Noel and Freema are friends and were friends before Doctor Who, as seen with Noel's video diary of Journey's End. But what we clearly see in this video is that Martha and Mickey will probably go to work a while with Jack at TORCHWOOD.
I think some forward thinking fans actually took matters from this very scene and speculated, since Jack is with Ianto, and he treats Martha like his sister, that Mickey would take the opportunity to get to know Martha better. And why shouldn't he? She's Martha Jones, And I think Martha would want to know Mickey better, because the only Mickey she's knows is the man who help save the world.
And we did--if we fans had chosen to look at what was right there in our face,--see a very attractive man walking into the sunset and a new life with his arms around a very attractive woman. Do we really believe Martha and Mickey said absolutely Nothing to each other during that walk? And if looking at this scene we don't believe they talked to each other or even flirted, why not?
She doesn't say anything about being engaged to Tom in Journey's, don't recall anyone bringing up her invisible fiancee. When we see Martha in Journey's End she's left England and is working in America.
The gun thing: That's an entire different subject, but I like the the theory of a Martha shipper who said, it goes to show how far Martha has come from needing the Doctor's approval. After all asking her to get rid of the Osterhagen Key a project, started in the 60's by world leaders was just plain--well it was Ten.
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Re: Martha and guns - for me it has nothing to do with Ten. Martha identifies as a doctor, as someone who looks after people. She's visibly upset about killing pig-slaves in the S3 Dalek two-parter, which has nothing to do with the Doctor. And she saved the world by telling a story - "No weapons, just words." She's *willing* to use the Osterhagen Key if there's no alternative (and yeah, Ten is being *very* Ten in swooping in and telling her to get rid of it), but it's an extreme case and not her day-to-day behavior. So, I don't think her refusal to carry a gun is all about the Doctor, and the fact that she's okay with it in "The End of Time" looks like writerly disregard of her character to me, not development.
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we're given pretty much nothing in-text to go on No we don't see a romance, but it seems inaccurate to say we don't see them together or that Mickey doesn't talk to her. We do see them together, he not only talks with her they are close and comfortable enough with each other for Mickey to put his arm around her and she doesn't tell him to shove off. At this point, although unfortunately we don't see a scene on the TARDIS where Mickey and Martha meet or are introduced (unless we watch the video Diary and that is Noel and Freema, rather than Mickey and Martha) ,their ease with other would indicate that they didn't stand around the TARDIS too afraid to go over and talk to each other. Many of us--and I'm one--looked at that scene and found it easy to speculate on what would happen with Martha and Jack's future, and did not think of Mickey's future, even though we see him with Martha and Jack at a significant juncture in all of their lives.
With the engagement to Tom--all we see is Martha calling Tom and not talking him.... Almost stalking. Tom doesn't recall the year-- in that reality he's dead, but the next time we see Martha, she engaged to "that Tom Milligan. To me that relationship seemed totally unnecessary to Martha's story line,as they had failed to persuade Tom Ellis to come back. Martha/Tom's relationship seemed as much if not more of a stretch of the imagination than the premise of Martha and Mickey, who after saving the Universe and then leaving the Doctor and the TARDIS together,fell in love.
she's visibly upset about killing pig-slaves in the S3 Dalek two-parter, which has nothing to do with the Doctor.
I would disagree. At the camp the Doctor tells Martha to do what she does best: help people. But he has different orders at Empire State building.
MARTHA:
I won’t just stand here and watch you.
DOCTOR:
No, you’re gonna have your hands full, anyway. I’m sorry, Martha, but you’ve got to fight.
She has to provide him backup, and he's telling to fight creatures who will kill her and the others, so he knows he's probably ordering her--as he would a soldier to kill to protect him and the others.
Martha identifies as a doctor, as someone who looks after people.
Martha didn't use a gun with the Pig slaves; the dilemma for her as a physician was that she used her scientific knowledge to deliberately cause harm. That would seem a different ethical choice than a physician who uses a gun or any weapon to protect a vulnerable person from being harmed. After all, before she married Mickey she was going to marry Tom, the gun welding Pediatrician who shot a creature we the audience and Martha knew was a child. The gun didn't bother me because when we see Martha with the gun, we know she's supporting her husband after he asked her to stay behind. I have no problem thinking that Martha knowing her husband was about to confront a warlike being on his own, picked up a gun as back-up rather than a stethoscope. I don't think in this instance she was violating her medical ethics.
And in that argument when she says: "Am I carrying a gun" is she really indicating that she believes that carrying a gun is wrong--again think of the pig slaves. She knows and the Doctor knows that just because she's not carrying a gun, doesn't mean someone will not die as a direct result of her actions. She was calling the Doctor out on his hypocrisy: He just blanket condemn that man: People with guns are the bad guys. These are soldiers, protecting humanity the best they can with what they have available.
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