Oh, thanks so very much, you've managed to sum up everything that I was trying to say in just one sentence - he really does fall in love with 1973, and I'm very glad that you liked the way that I showed it :)
This just sucked me in completely. All of those are incredible and the descriptions were so vivid I didn't even need to try and imagine it because I could already see it. :) If that made sense becasue I am just in awe.
I like these, very well written. I can just see Sam coming to most of these conclusions!
Though I have to take issue with part of four, simply because whilst yes, "the women are still allowed to be women, without being made to feel that it will damage their lives if they aren’t even bigger corporate bullies than men, or reed-thin sex kittens" there were pressures, only they were different. They were expected to be wives and mothers. To breed and sew and clean. It was still the same pressure to conform, only these days the model of conformity has changed.
Women, then as now, are expected to obey the models and rules of society. It's not innocence, it's a quite deep and destructive form of patriarchy. At least IMHO!
I'm actually very much in agreement with you; women were still under pressures, just a different set, and they were just as bad, if not worse - I'd actually prefer to be a woman now, actually
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Hmm. Hadn't seen it that way at all actually. But then again I'm a woman, a young woman who adores the world she's grown up in and would have hated to be of my mother's generation. She couldn't even get a mortgage when she was my age because no bank would have leant her money because of course she would have kids and leave the workforce. Of course...
But it's a very interesting point you raise, I hadn't looked at it that way at all. The idea is very close to the way some of my older male friends see things, so you're probably not off base. Though these are men in their 50's not men in their 30's. Was there a major shift in those 20 years? I'm not sure how men who grew up with Thatcher see the career vs family balance.
I think upbringing might definitely have something to do with it; I know some guys who are my age (25) and were raised very differently, and as a result, some just see me as one of the guys and have no trouble treating me like they would another man, but others always have to open doors, pull out chairs, and make remarks such as "don't lift that, it's too heavy for a girl" and "if I offer to pay, will you clean my apartment? Your's always looks so clean because you're a girl
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Thanks very much for commenting, I'm very glad that you liked them. I was actually really worried about #3, because I really have no clue what a stadium football game in the UK in 1973 or 2006 would be like, and I was afraid it'd be a bit off base, so I'm very glad that you approve :)
i have no idea what is in the UK either (probably very different from Spain) but i have read Nick Hornby lol I think it wasn´t all as innocent as Sam thinks it was, but as the football in 1973 here is the football in 1973 as Sam remembers I think the romanticism there it´s fitting, so i can see what you wrote as very much how Sam would see it.
I think you're definitely right about Sam romanticizing it, and I'm glad that it worked for you :) Nothing wrong with ranting - and is that Xabi Alonso in your icon, or am I guessing totally off base?
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I am having a very fluffy day and I am enjoying it very, very much.
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Though I have to take issue with part of four, simply because whilst yes, "the women are still allowed to be women, without being made to feel that it will damage their lives if they aren’t even bigger corporate bullies than men, or reed-thin sex kittens" there were pressures, only they were different. They were expected to be wives and mothers. To breed and sew and clean. It was still the same pressure to conform, only these days the model of conformity has changed.
Women, then as now, are expected to obey the models and rules of society. It's not innocence, it's a quite deep and destructive form of patriarchy. At least IMHO!
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But it's a very interesting point you raise, I hadn't looked at it that way at all. The idea is very close to the way some of my older male friends see things, so you're probably not off base. Though these are men in their 50's not men in their 30's. Was there a major shift in those 20 years? I'm not sure how men who grew up with Thatcher see the career vs family balance.
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my fave is #3 cause well, yeah, football. i´m biased like that.
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i rant but yeah XD
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