Iran for Help

Nov 14, 2014 17:51


The US, specifically the Obama administration, is helping Iran’s drive for nuclear weapons in many ways:

iran, foreign relations, politics, obama, jihadism

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richardf8 November 18 2014, 03:07:12 UTC
For the first time in her career, I think, Betty McCollum did not get my vote.

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level_head November 18 2014, 21:19:57 UTC
We are being Grubered on Iran, I think, and this is being backed by the nature of media attention to the Middle East. It seems that CNN described the Jerusalem terrorist attack as an attack on a mosque. A minor thing, but part of a large pattern.

Best wishes.

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle

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richardf8 November 19 2014, 04:23:03 UTC
Don't know what Grubered means ( ... )

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level_head November 19 2014, 04:30:02 UTC
Except that Israel did the right thing, I think. Yes, their reputation was trashed as always by leftist media, even though their military targeting was better than that of the US.

But doing the wrong thing because you're going to get in trouble anyway does not seem appropriate to me.

I am not certain how they could eliminate the threat from Hamas. One possibility occurs to me, which is revoking the abandonment of the Gaza Strip in 2005, and simply moving back in. But this is problematic, I think. Right now Israel has surprising support from Arab nations ranging from Egypt to Saudi Arabia.

What did you have in mind?

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle

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richardf8 November 19 2014, 06:35:32 UTC
Well, reoccupation of Gaza with an eye toward a Marshall plan approach, and dehamasification comes to mind. The thing is no one has the appetite for that sort of thing any longer. That would be the "right thing". It's what should have been done in Iraq, and it's what should have been done in Gaza ( ... )

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level_head November 19 2014, 13:38:11 UTC
The Marshall Plan approach would basically be to make Gaza like it was before: productive. The previous facilities (including many greenhouses!) were destroyed by the jihadists immediately because they had been built by "the hated Jews." And, of course, they had no interest in replacing them; they are professional victims.

Egypt's offer to give the jihadists land for their own state was met with scorn: They don't want land, they want a world without Jews.

But evidence suggests that you are wrong about Obama; his purposes are plain enough (largely due to his inartful speech, particularly off-the-cuff), but he is also an inveterate and habitual liar. They are not mutually exclusive.

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle

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richardf8 November 19 2014, 18:13:36 UTC
Obama is not the greatest source of interest here; we are essentially arguing over whether he's a liar or a BS artist.

Did you get a chance to review the linked articles?

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level_head November 19 2014, 18:33:22 UTC
Not yet.

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle

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