Iran for Help

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The US, specifically the Obama administration, is helping Iran’s drive for nuclear weapons in many ways:

• The sanctions have effectively ended, so Iran is now flush with cash to acquire nuclear assistance.
• The recent discovery that Iran appears to have 400% more uranium-processing centrifuges than we thought should have reset the deal. Instead, Obama

Comments

[richardf8]

Don't know what Grubered means.

And . . . not a minor thing. Worth reading: http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/183033/israel-insider-guide#channel=f3b6c69cb88acc&origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tabletmag.com

And after that, this: http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/A-Dose-of-Nuance-Can-we-please-stop-talking-about-hasbara-381004?utm_source=Can+We+Please+Stop+Talking+about+Hasbarah%3F+%28Jerusalem+Post%29&utm_campaign=Are+We+Like+American+Jews+During+the+Shoah%3F+&utm_medium=email

So Obama. I read an interview he gave to Thomas Friedman a while back. I don't believe the man is a liar. If he were, I would not be so pissed at the statements he makes with regularity. A liar would tuck that where I couldn't see it. There is a greater danger than lying, and that is believing earnestly in your ideals, even when reality is slapping them down. Obama seems to truly believe that every conflict can be brought to a Win-Win. He doesn't understand that reason doesn't work on monsters.

I passed some time this summer with Hamas' charter. It's an important work. More people should read it. Its chapter on the role of women in Jihad, which emphasises the importance of raising children to Jihad explains why "awww . . . he was just a kid!" (an utterance by a member of my synagogue) is a woefully inadequate reaction to the shooting of a terrorist by the policemen he had just tried to attack. He was a "kid" raised as a weapon.

Benjamin Netanyahu is little better. The summer's war took a huge toll on Israel's reputation. That would be fine, in and of itself, if it had eliminated Hamas as a threat, but always, Netanyahu pulls out early in response to "international pressure" and is the UN investigates Israel for war crimes. Since Israel is going to wind up in the dock regardless, it might as well actually eliminate the threat first.

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Except that Israel did the right thing, I think. Yes, their reputation was trashed as always by leftist media, even though their military targeting was better than that of the US.

But doing the wrong thing because you're going to get in trouble anyway does not seem appropriate to me.

I am not certain how they could eliminate the threat from Hamas. One possibility occurs to me, which is revoking the abandonment of the Gaza Strip in 2005, and simply moving back in. But this is problematic, I think. Right now Israel has surprising support from Arab nations ranging from Egypt to Saudi Arabia.

What did you have in mind?

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle

[richardf8]

Well, reoccupation of Gaza with an eye toward a Marshall plan approach, and dehamasification comes to mind. The thing is no one has the appetite for that sort of thing any longer. That would be the "right thing". It's what should have been done in Iraq, and it's what should have been done in Gaza.

Doing that would require a lot of international support, and my surmise at this moment is that the international community would prefer not to have a Jewish state around at all. They are therefore content to stand idly by while Jewish blood is spilled even as they remain eager to crucify us for any drop of terrorist blood spilled in our defense.

And we in the US must suffer a president who has the temerity to use the phrase "peace in our time" in a state of the union address. Obama is no liar, he is very plain about what he is. Though Chamberlain had this in his favor: he did not have Chamberlain's disastrous outcome to guide him. I could thus not hear Obama's words as anything but "let's throw the Jews under the bus," particularly since he was talking about the Iranian negotiations when he uttered those words.

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The Marshall Plan approach would basically be to make Gaza like it was before: productive. The previous facilities (including many greenhouses!) were destroyed by the jihadists immediately because they had been built by "the hated Jews." And, of course, they had no interest in replacing them; they are professional victims.

Egypt's offer to give the jihadists land for their own state was met with scorn: They don't want land, they want a world without Jews.

But evidence suggests that you are wrong about Obama; his purposes are plain enough (largely due to his inartful speech, particularly off-the-cuff), but he is also an inveterate and habitual liar. They are not mutually exclusive.

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle

[richardf8]

Obama is not the greatest source of interest here; we are essentially arguing over whether he's a liar or a BS artist.

Did you get a chance to review the linked articles?

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Not yet.

===|==============/ Keith DeHavelle