Japan, Twisted

Mar 13, 2011 20:27

This image shows that a large section of Japan's Honshu island (the main part of Japan) has twisted toward the east( by about eight feet. )

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polaris93 March 14 2011, 04:31:08 UTC
That's terrifying. It also makes it clear why the Greeks were terrified of the Gods Hades and Poseidon (one of whose epithets was "Poseidon Earth-Shaker): anything that can shove a piece of land as large as Honshu some eight feet has got to be one scary mofo, as the homeboys put it!

People seem to expect "somebody to do something about this," i.e., "make it didn't happen," or it least make it not happen in future. Good luck. About the best we can do is not build near any place that might treat us to a tectonic upheaval that large -- but then, who knew that the ocean off Sendai was going to do that? They knew it was seismically unstable, and built well to make their installations and homes as stable and strong as possible. But earthquake preparedness, like the military of just about any nation, usually fights the last war, not the next one, and as so often happens, Japan was caught unprepared by a monstrous series of quakes far larger than anyone had anticipated. Which will happen again and again and again, the world over, ( ... )

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level_head March 14 2011, 05:07:19 UTC
The powerplants were designed for an 8.2 earthquake -- and since they were a hundred-plus miles from the actual fault, the earthquake stresses at the plant were likely much less.

All of the plants made it through the quake intact. All SCRAMed as a matter of course, I understand -- and it was only the tsunami (which washed away the emergency cooling diesel engines, fuel tanks, and so on) that created the situation they're in now -- which so far is a tiny thing compared to the effect of the quake on tens of thousands of others.

I think that this backup cooling aspect can be addressed, and new reactors will be of more modern design. And those issues will be looked at carefully before the Japanese install new nuclear reactors, and restart existing ones -- but they will be rebuilding nuclear plants, I'll wager.

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polaris93 March 14 2011, 05:12:39 UTC
I hope so. They need those plants. The modern versions are far safer than older models, and as long as they're propery maintained, they work very well. That it was the tsunamis which caused the problems they're now having to deal with at those power-plants rather than the earthquakes (there have been quite a few now in that area) doesn't surprise me. The Japanese build well when it comes to earthquake safety, because of their long acquaintance with just what quakes can do and how much damage they can cause. But nobody anticipated a tsunami of that magnitude, not because of lack of foresight, but because of lack of experience. And in the wake of the Boxing Day tsunami of 2004 they were putting in walls to hold back big tsunamis; but as one announcer put it, the tsunami came through where the walls weren't. If it had held off another year, the walls might have prevented the worst of it. Things take time to build, and time was the problem here.

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level_head March 14 2011, 05:30:33 UTC
The nature of tsunamis makes "walls" not all that useful. The reactors are in massively reinforced, closed boxes -- and that was what was needed for the generators and external pumps as well.

Many buildings much taller than the waves were simply swept away by the force of that water.

They found one fellow, still on his house and still alive, nine miles out at sea.

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c_eagle March 14 2011, 05:35:18 UTC
*nods* I'd heard that, but these images and links are quite striking too... 8|

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shockwave77598 March 14 2011, 13:25:32 UTC
Time to move to more Pebble bed reactors. No need for active cooling in emergecies and they physically can't meltdown. They don't produce as much energy, true. That also makes them cheaper to build.

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rowyn March 14 2011, 16:35:53 UTC
Alas, none of this is going to make nuclear power any more palatable to the public. :(

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level_head March 14 2011, 18:12:09 UTC
Education may help.

And if someday the Obama administration decided they liked nuclear, the media would suddenly be all for it.

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eric_hinkle March 14 2011, 23:16:29 UTC
OT but I was quite surprised to see that Japan, of all countries, has nuclear power plants.

Japan does it, France does it... is there really any reason left for the US to run shrieking in fear from nuclear plants that are properly run and maintained?

Really -- a few years ago some relatives took us down to some outlet mall for new clothes. There were cooling towers visible nearby, and my sister was panicstricken because she "knew" that plants were going to blow up and kill us all.

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