Victory of the Daleks -- my thoughts

Apr 19, 2010 21:30

I know that a lot of people didn't enjoy it, but I thought it was great. There was a bit of silliness and some things that were a little over the top, but I can forgive that.

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fera_festiva April 19 2010, 12:02:57 UTC
Ooh, I see what you mean! I hadn't really thought about the ep from this angle - as I said on Twitter, I saw it after a few drinks so my reaction was more along the lines of "WOAH AWESOME" or "NEEDS MOAR 'SPLOSIONS". :D

Anyway, this is a really interesting take on it. Despite the cocktails, I did really like Amy's use of "fancying someone you shouldn't" to bring Mr Scientist Dude Whose Name I Have Forgotten "back". I agree that the overall message from that was the love wins - and that therefore there is always hope. Especially when he was planning to kill himself, as far as I could tell not because he was actually suicidal but because he felt he ought to be, and then given the opportunity he got out.

As far as Amy's memories of the Daleks go - I have no idea where that one is going, but GOD I AM EXCITED TO FIND OUT. :D

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lefaym April 19 2010, 12:12:32 UTC
I think that "WHOA AWESOME" and "NEEDS MOAR 'SPLOSIONS" are PERFECTLY VALID responses to Doctor Who! :D

And yeah -- I think the point is that love makes us stronger. It doesn't mean that everything always turns out perfectly, it doesn't stop us from feeling grief (quite the opposite), but when we have to confront our demons/bad guys/aliens, we're better off for having it, which is so totally the opposite of the message that CoE sent.

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coldwater1010 April 19 2010, 12:44:46 UTC
I thought the 'love' message might be akin to creating positive energy in order to off-set the negative energy needed to create the wormhole affect of the bomb. So while I think it was a pretty simplistic solution maybe it wasn't as far out there dippy as the scene suggested. But I like your theory too ( ... )

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lefaym April 19 2010, 12:49:44 UTC
Yeah, I think you're probably right that it's more of a flux thing and that Amy's human. BUT I WANT A PET THEORY. :P

And you're right, I think -- it was the Doctor who figured out how to diffuse the bomb, it's just that it turned out that Amy was better at actually doing it once he told her what the solution was. It was a team effort. I do suppose that if every episode ends with Amy saving the day with her belief in humanity, it could get a bit trite, but I don't think that is the case yet.

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sashajwolf April 19 2010, 13:05:45 UTC
I think it'd be great if the focus of this series is about regaining lost memory -- kind of like the inverse of Donna's story arc

Oh, I like that idea.

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mtgat April 19 2010, 13:32:22 UTC
See, and with the heavy-handed "the Doctor comes to save the children" theme from the second ep and tying into the first ep, plus the bit where the doctor in 11th Hr didn't know about cellphone cameras, if current Amy's not from 2008 or thereabouts (which puts that scene back in 2006). We know 11 doesn't know when he's been, because he keeps skipping times. I also wonder wtf was up with that moment when we saw wee!Amy again on her suitcases with the TARDIS noise in the background. Could be related.

I squeed when the red dalek came out. "BOB!"

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lefaym April 19 2010, 21:02:54 UTC
Well, there's definitely something funny going on, that's for sure.

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kath_ballantyne April 19 2010, 13:51:51 UTC
I'm excited because I know Stephen is so big on the brain bendy, thinky plots ( ... )

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lefaym April 19 2010, 21:06:11 UTC
So when the TARDIS crash landed in Amy's yard was that normal time? Because if not she really did grow up in 5mins/a few weeks etc and time went forward too.

Oh, yes, I like this theory. Like time itself got attached to the TARDIS or something, and fourteen years or whatever it was got crushed into five minutes. That's great! Lol, I wonder of Moffat is going to somehow try to explain the UNIT dating controversy in this way too. :P

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kath_ballantyne April 20 2010, 08:53:17 UTC
lol. No idea.
Though Moffat has said that the 1990 on the badge was a mistake. Hmmm. Except they zoomed in on it and it was in still photos so they could easily have fixed it.

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