Wow! That gives me hope, lol.. Rather than fail Biology, I dropped the class. I did continue with the lab and made an A, but now have to retake the biology lecture. Wish I could come down there and take it with you. That would be interesting. At least I can spell and when you talk about your students, that wouldn't be what you say about me, lol....
Oh hell, now you've gotten me started :)hecksheriMay 30 2006, 22:15:47 UTC
You have one up on me at least. I am a terrible speller. I do tend to write in complete sentences and I at least have the good sense to proofread and spellcheck papers before I turn them in to have them graded. I understand that students make mistakes, get caught in deadlines, get stuck in the trials of life, etc. Hell, I have been through almost every bad thing that can happen to a student with a paper due. When I talk about students, a) I never mention names and b) I am doing so because it is so bad out there that you cannot reasonably expect literacy from a graduate of a "good" four year college and that is a problem that needs to be talked about long and loud by a lot more people than are talking about it. They don't just pass people through chemistry unless they can do chemistry, so why should it be any different for english. The system is completely broken. I don't know how the students are making it through their english classes without gaining more skill than they demonstrate in their subsequent science classes. I am
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Re: Oh hell, now you've gotten me started :)herbpixieMay 31 2006, 12:38:42 UTC
They don't just pass people through chemistry unless they can do chemistry, so why should it be any different for english.
Thank you. I work with a lot of scientists who think that English classes are not important. I just proofread a paper that was written by one of our doctors, and the grammar was atrocious. Every other sentence was a fragment. She also didn't bother to put articles in front of her nouns. I was astounded.
We also have a client who has a doctorate in English. She asked one of the techs to call her "Doctor ___" instead of "Mrs. ___." When our practice manager learned that her degree was in English, she rolled her eyes and said, "Oh. So she's not really a doctor." The tech agreed. Um, I'm sorry, but if it were that damn easy to get a doctorate in English, then everyone would have excellent grammar
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Re: Oh hell, now you've gotten me started :)hecksheriMay 31 2006, 14:42:16 UTC
I guess vets don't have to write theses and dissertations to get doctorates, otherwise their grammar skills would have gotten beaten into shape whether they liked it or not. Most of the the scientists that are in the business of researching and publishing their work are sticklers on grammar. If they aren't, they have to hire readers to fix their papers or they won't have a hope of publishing. Neil got his MS in mass communications and does radio, television, reporting and PR work now. One of the reasons that his boss stuck with him after his internship...for ten years now..is that he writes very well and that is something that is damn near impossible to find. After the tenth resume that states, "I write good", I bet a grammar-skilled HR person wants to jump out of the nearest window.
Re: Oh hell, now you've gotten me started :)herbpixieMay 31 2006, 18:22:05 UTC
Computer Science. I'm thinking about going into software engineering specifically, but I've not made a firm decision. Unfortunately, I'm starting fresh. I have no formal computer education at all, but I think I have a mild talent in that area. And every freaking standardized test I've ever taken tells me that I should be an engineer. It's neither my first love nor my greatest talent, but at least we won't be broke anymore.
Re: Oh hell, now you've gotten me started :)hecksheriMay 31 2006, 14:50:46 UTC
Oh, and English doctorates are among the absolute most retardedly difficult degrees to get. You can't get one unless you have a talent and a love for the subject. Think about the fact that a thesis or dissertation must add to the body of existing knowledge. I wouldn't even know where to start. Gads, and talk about the research and digging you would have to do...the roots of language are very obscure, and what literature hasn't already been analyzed to death.
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Thank you. I work with a lot of scientists who think that English classes are not important. I just proofread a paper that was written by one of our doctors, and the grammar was atrocious. Every other sentence was a fragment. She also didn't bother to put articles in front of her nouns. I was astounded.
We also have a client who has a doctorate in English. She asked one of the techs to call her "Doctor ___" instead of "Mrs. ___." When our practice manager learned that her degree was in English, she rolled her eyes and said, "Oh. So she's not really a doctor." The tech agreed. Um, I'm sorry, but if it were that damn easy to get a doctorate in English, then everyone would have excellent grammar ( ... )
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What are you going to major in?
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