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[laeria]

Flist o flist!

I have a question for you! Which may or may not be born from my vague Balkanic annoyance with the Willian/Kate craze (not the actual people, but the craze, it has infected my television in a way that keeps baffling).

What makes a good fictional wedding?
I can think of some weddings I've read/watched, but generally they ended with

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[laeria]

Yes yes, it was about friendship and about growing up not having to mean leaving wonder behind. It was brilliant in a way. (Although I am also squicked by the I-really-hope-that-was-accidental-Moffat Donna comparison, because AMY IS NOT A DONNA FIX-IT THERE IS NOTHING TO FIX GODDAMN YOU.) But, yes, not in a shippy way. I am totally with you on Amy/Rory - they confuse me. I like the THEORY of the ship, very much, love that he's okay with being her sidekick/beta, love that he's okay with defying convention for her although they matter for him. I love that she's kinky and sexually confidant and okay with letting him know it. It's great. But I don't actually - feel it in action? Like, I constantly feel we're being told, not shown, what their relationship is like. Ish. Something. But that's the crux of my Moff issues anyway, and I'm getting fairly good at watching around it.

(Besides, everyone knows Amy's doomed to have a time-travelling menage a trois with Gunn and Dawn. Which is my newest ship, and I'm not even joking here. I'm not sure where to put Rory though. Ship him with Annie Sawyer or something, d'you reckon?)

Mm, yes. My ideal marriage is the kind where they don't even know where it began and find the idea of a wedding quaint and amusing.

OH GOD YES KATE IS NOT ACTUALLY CINDERELLA, SHUT THE HELL UP. I get that people need the ~romance~, but goddammit, go read Drastically Redefining Protocol (seriously, pru should EARN MILLIONS by making use of the current emotional climate), don't force real people into your fantasies, ESPECIALLY, as you say, considering the Diana thing.

[thornyrose42]

I really don't think it was a Donna fix it. Or at least I hope not. I'd say that any parallels can probably be explained by the whole: its a wedding and they are both red heads. End of. What I would say is that Amy and Rory staying in the TARDIS probably does function as a 'fix-it' in the loosest possible sense of the word, for the old trope that one of the main ways female companions left the TARDIS was to get married.

Telling not showing was my really big problem with their relationship. Especially since I feel that if it had been done right they would have hit all of my relationship kinks. I mean they grew up together! She made him dress up as the Raggedy Doctor and they ran around driving everyone in Ledworth crazy. But I never got that sense of a shared set of memories with them. Not one moment when they had an in joke that neither the Doctor or the audience understood. Now maybe that can be explained by the cracks. Little memories that had been eaten up etc. Or maybe its just the Moff's style. Good a the plots not so much with the people. I just can't help thinking about all the little things that Rusty put in to his relationships and conversations to make them specific to that person. Even without words the Rose/Mickey relationship had that sense of shared history to it. Right from the very first. I just don't get that with Amy and Rory.

Actually I just really don't get the Rory love. To me he spent a lot of the season being the Nice Guy TM and not in a good way. I mean the whole Centurion thing kind of made me feel a bit better but still...

I just don't get the feeling that Amy is really in to monogamy and since its a kids TV show oogling herself is about as far as they can go really.

Anyway, I'm still sort of at the stage when I think that both Amy and Annie deserve better. And Amy should just have lots of space sex.

Also, I'd completely forgotten about Drastically Redefining Protocol and OMG it is so good to read it again. You do know that you have scuppered any essay writing I was going to do today.