On FBR/MCR Bandom and the Fourth Wall

[ladysorka]

Okay, guys, seriously. Yes, sometimes in this fandom the fourth wall gets taken down for a bit. But, well. Here's the thing. We post porn in public spaces. Most of us do not lock it down, and not all of us have "robots, go away!" flags set on our journals. And we are not the only ones who write porn - it's all over Buzznet, Quizilla, Myspace

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[ladysorka]

Okay, yeah, the characterization issues I could see. Ouch.

And I've had Vicky-T actually comment on things I've posted on Buzznet and Youtube, so I know that there's a certain... heightened visibility to being a bigger fan of a smaller name. But I also think that it's best just to forget about it, because I can't do anything about it if they do find it. And, well. I hope that if they do they're amused.

[magdalyna]

Once I got over the initial "where's my 4th wall? oh noes!" reaction, I agree to a point: We can't expect to hide from them, since they could be us: internet savvy and geeky enough to go poking around. Its different because few write Tom or Bob, and the fic others like Pete and the Cobras find isn't usually on LJ.

Therefore, it feels different. We had "its fic on Quizilla/buzznet/MySpace" before now. There was a sense of removal.

[ladysorka]

On the other hand though, if he has google alerts on himself, the LJ stuff is actually easier to find - google alert treats livejournals like blogs, but not myspaces or buzznets, and I usually get at least a couple of LJ fics a day in my Patrick Stump round-up e-mail. Usually they're things posted to slashatthedisco or patrickxpeter, but I have occasionally gotten links to fic I've actually read.

And if he does have google alerts on himself, it's probably easier for him to find fic about himself than for Pete or Ryan Ross - fandom is one of the only places Tomrad is actually talked about on a regular basis.

But I do see where you're coming from.

[magdalyna]

Hmm.

The back button is still fully functional, and no one (we assume) printed it out and forced it on him.

If he does have a google alert on himself, this means he's looking for something, which I don't know what I think and feel about yet.

[ladysorka]

Well, it's possible that he turned it on to get reactions about Empires from old TAI fans, which would make sense, and he's only getting links to fic as a side effect. ...and reading them because he thinks it's funny, maybe, I have no idea.

[sceaterian]

I'm sorry to butt in, but what was the catalyst for this post?

[magdalyna]

http://kalpurna.livejournal.com/93689.html

[sceaterian]

Ah, thank you much. That is a little unnerving. I'm just glad they have a good sense of humour about it.

[magdalyna]

Glad to help, and yeah, we're lucky about his reaction.

[ninjajab]

i must have missed something because i have no idea what anyone is talking about with this 4th wall business. bzzah?

[ladysorka]

Tomrad quoted an excerpt of a Tom/Bob fic at another one of the guys in Empires on Myspace. With no commentary, just the quote. More here.

There's a lot of discussion going on. And, um. I assume you know what the fourth wall is, but if not, wiki!

[canadiankracka]

I totally TOTALLY agree with everything you said here.

[ladysorka]

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