Fic: In One Easy Lesson 1/1 J3 (sorta)

[ladyjanelly]

Title: In One Easy Lesson
Author: Ladyjanelly
Fandom: SPN RPS
Pairing: non-sexual Jared/Jeff (really, it makes sense), Jensen/Jared
Rating: NC-17
Warnings: BDSM-- 100% Safe, sane, concensual bondage, domination, submission, pain-play
Disclaimer: I don't know these guys, this never happened, it's just fiction, 
Huge thank-you to 

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This is going to be massive.

[becky_h]

Jeff looks at him like he’s measuring him, trying to see the truth of him. “Come in, have a seat. Don’t talk unless you can stay civil. If you need to leave, just get up and go; the three of us can talk about it tomorrow.”

I'm really liking Jeff. Before I met Jeff in the story I was afraid he was going to be a nasty evil bad sadist. I love that he's not. And his handling here is just perfect.

Jeff holds the door open and Jensen steps inside. Furniture’s been moved around, leaving Jared’s living room a big empty space with the couch along one side, chairs facing away on the other.

The set up here's good. I love that it's taking place in Jared's living space - It's *GREAT* possibly even genius. It's not an anonymous location - it's Jared's living space so it's (presumably) a safe one. But it's rearranged for what's happening here and shifted and changed. The focus is on Jared - the chair back's turned to him even changes the function of the room.

And Jared--Jared’s in the center of all that space. He’s naked, and Jensen'

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[becky_h]

What’s your safe-word?” And that, Jeff directs only to Jared.

“Tristan.” Jared’s voice is surprisingly steady, for as tense as he looks.

“And if I gag you?”

Again, there’s no hesitation. “I’ll have the squeaker, and I squeeze it three times.”

I like a lot here, too. I really like Jeff - still. I like him for instructing Jensen more than I have words for - almost as much as talking to Jared rather than around him - and for excluding Jenses in this interaction. It's not one he should be part of.

“Collar’s the first thing on, after we set terms,” Jeff says, and Jensen thinks this is more for his benefit than either of theirs. “Last thing off. It defines when we’re playin’ and when we aren’t. When it’s on, it lets him know he’s free.”I hate collars in fic - This is honestly the first time I've seen one used in a way that makes me really love it. It's brilliant usage in a way that's not soppy romantic and annoying. It's just real and caring

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[becky_h]

This almost made me squeal outloud. This is perfect. It's rhythmic touch, it's affirmation of Jared's strength - and it's worked in as casually and perfect as anything I think I've seen anywhere. It's amazing not just for what it's telling Jensen but what it's telling (and doing for) Jared, too.

Now that gets Jensen's attention. “Wait, what?

I had that response but it was another thing that makes me grin. Unexpected is always good, and I really didn't expect Jeff to be straight. It's wonderful.

Jeff shrugs. “He needs it. I like the power; even if it’s not sex, it’s still a rush.”

Good answer! I like that there's a BDSM relationship here without sex. A lot.

Jensen sees Jeff’s hand, there out of Jared’s sight, ready to steady him if his knees don’t hold, and it hasn’t even been that long.

Again with Jeff love. I want my own Jeff. A lot.

Jared squirms his ankle around in the shackle and looks over his shoulder. Jensen catches a glimpse of embarrassed smile. “Leg hair,” Jared says in an exaggerated whisper

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[becky_h]

glances back at the two younger men and reaches for the handle.

One quibble here and it's not huge - but more than just the assurance of not letting someone he's not sure of fuck Jared there's the whole not leaving Jared alone tied up and high on endorphins with someone he's not sure of. That's pretty implicit but there's a lot of transfer of safety happening here and Jeff's putting a whole lot of trust in Jensen. If you're going to spell it out in the dialog I'd probably spell the whole thing out so the focus isn't all on the sex.

Jared whimpers again, eager and needy. Jensen thwaps his ass because, dude. Workin’ on it, okay?

This made me giggle a little too. I like that it's essentially bondage and a smack to this point. Jensen's new to this! I like that he's trying but not jumping right to something that could hurt Jared. It's good!

Jensen does it for him; it just feels right.This is the part where I like the instinctive. He's doing things because they feel right and they are right. What's more it's a nice sign that

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[becky_h]

“You can call your word if you don’t want to answer something, but you can never lie to me here. I can’t--I can’t do this if there’s any chance you’ll lie.” It’s not until those words are out of his mouth that Jensen realizes he’s willing to do this again, to pay the cost to give Jared this release.

I like the lying part. The paying a price for Jensen- so-so. It doesn't feel manipualtive and pushy and there is sacrifice on both sides of any D/s or S/m relationship but it leaves me thinking maybe Jensen's not getting it so well after all. Looking back at my earlier comments and the story - Jensen got what Jared needed and got why Jared was sexy, but he never got why it was something *JEFF* might need or get from it. Or rather there is but it's not a personal for Jensen.

“And then there’s this voice, like Johnny Cash on a bad day, askin’ ‘Kid? You trying to safe-word, or do you just like it when your master’s pissed off?’"...I love this story. I think every sub I've ever talked to has one. There's even a lot of doms who will

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[becky_h]

...and coming back to say it's fandom_me and I am an idiot who forgot to change my login.

Re: login

[ladyjanelly]

I figured, from the e-mail name. :)

Re: 5

[ladyjanelly]

it leaves me thinking maybe Jensen's not getting it so well after all.

I don't think that the dom-rush would be enough for Jensen if that was all that he could have of Jared outside of their friendship. Not that doing this costs him, but doing /only/ this would. If that makes sense? Also, even if they continued being only dom/sub, I think he might discover his enjoyment of it, but for now he's not quite in that head-space. For him, at that moment, it was mostly about Jared getting what he needs and the fear that he'd be just a tool to achieve that, a replacement-Jeff with the right-tuned libedo.

I think every sub I've ever talked to has one.

Heh. That's a little bit my friend Chris' story. I wanted something for Jeff to be all butch!hero about, but not a trauma-rape-horror thing.

I'd like to see more of Jensen understanding the appealI think if I ever do write a sequel, it'll be about Jensen learning that he enjoys topping, and that it's okay and doesnt make him a bad person

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[becky_h]

I'm so glad you did ask me to read it - it was a wonderful fic and a wonderful conversation.

Also, having just gone back to re-read for pure enjoyment (because I'm waiting for morning to start your other stuff ) I've realized something else about this fic that hits home in a really good way.

A lot of the appeal for BDSM, fic and real world, for me is that it pushes limits. Doesn't obliterate them but pushes. ALL three of the characters here are being pushed. Jeff is letting go of Jared, who he's taken care of for years. Jared is letting JEnsen in and taking a big risk and exposing a lot of himself and needs and emotion- and there's the physical push with the plug. Jensen's being pushed to understand this.

- I agree, by the way, about it needing to be give and take. Jensen needs to give not just take, and he's new so the give is going to be easier than the take for him. This is all huge for him. it's got to be and I love that.

If you write more, beta-ing or not I'll be reading.

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[ladyjanelly]

I really hadn't thought about all three being pushed as a group, but wow, re-reading it again myself, it really worked like that.

Looking forward to chatting with you again sometime. This has been very educational, and I think my ego may never shrink back to its original size. :)

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[editorzon]

I just loved this on so many levels. After reading this I was thinking that I would love a sequel about Jensen finding his own place in this beyond it being the gateway for him and Jared being together. I would hope he would come to enjoy topping and there's no way that wouldn't be an incredibly hot thing to read. Jared has had years as well as Jeff to help him figure out what he likes, what are his limits. Jensen is somewhat flying blind although I think you dropped some nice subtle hints that topping may come to him somewhat naturally. Even if you don't write a sequel do you think Jensen would ever seek Jeff out for advice or instruction

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[ladyjanelly]

Oh, I'm sure Jensen would look to Jeff for advice. He's for-sure not going to jump into it the next day. He'll want to research and test things out on his own skin so he knows what he's putting Jared through.

He's got a good instinct for what makes Jared feel safe (like freeing Jared's ankles even though he could have done it himself), but yeah, "Performance anxiety" describes it perfectly. I think Jeff'll have to be the go-between on their first play-date, at the least, just to let Jared know Jensen is willing so he'll go to him.

hopes that wasn't too TMINah, I'm pretty comfortable talking about this sort of stuff with people. It's all good

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[editorzon]

I'm a little in love with your brain at the moment. ;-) If you never write a follow up to this story then what you wrote back to me will more than satisfy my cravings. I like the idea of the transition from Jeff to Jensen and Jeff being the go-between for their first play-date. It adds a lot to the realism for me as well as the thought of Jensen educating himself, testing himself so he'll have a better understanding of what it's like on Jared's end. I wonder if he'd even go so far as to ask Jeff run him through a scene to get the "full experience" so speak

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[ladyjanelly]

I don't see this Jensen letting go enough to let Jeff top him for an experiment, but I think Jensen will use everything on himself before he uses it on Jared, with the exception maybe of the larger toys (since Jared's had more um, practice

Re: 4

[ladyjanelly]

there's the whole not leaving Jared alone tied up and high on endorphins with someone he's not sure of.

I think Jeff's positive Jensen will keep Jared safe. Worst-case scenario in his head, Jensen rushes to get him free and 'fix this' and doesn't bring Jared down slow. Super-worst case scenario, Jensen sits there in shock until Jared pulls himself together, tips the chair up so the straps fall off the chair-legs, walks over to the phone and calls Jeff, who is still outside.

I can see the point of Jeff putting a little less emphasis on the sex though, you're right about that.

Jensen's new to this! I like that he's trying but not jumping right to something that could hurt Jared. It's good!

Heh. And there's still a tiny bit of their bantering give-and-take, even with Jared tied up over the chair. I wanted to keep them them.

I like the emotional connect as much as I like what's happeningthat's the thing for me and porn. The head-space and heart-space are more interesting than what the bodies are doing. I've read hand-jobs

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[becky_h]

he head-space and heart-space are more interesting than what the bodies are doing. I've read hand-jobs that were sexier than toys and full-anal and fisting and rimming and whatnot. I think this was the scene in my head when I first got the urge to write this.

Oh my god yes. It is so easy for porn to turn into a string of 'actions' without impact and I hate it. I like my sex and porn to be about characters I can relate to. If I don't know what's happening with them I can't relate, and if I can't relate it's not hot.

You obviously avoided that and *then* some and YES I love the bantering give and take even with jared tied up over a chair. Their personalities shone through and *kept* shinning. It was fantastic.