Having seen the footage of the London police effectively murdering another passer-by, I feel ashamed to be living in this city. Something fundamental is wrong with the british society.
it is good to see opinions backed up with evidence and an acknowledgment that some of the sources may be biased, thanks for spending the time on it. for clarity, i dont think what happened was in any way 'right' but i also dont think it was murder or reflective of british society.
i would have expected the Met to record the highest proportion of discriminatory behavior or breaches of the code on stop and search as they are the biggest force in the country. whilst the data on Code A Pace breaches shows an increase, I cant determine with the information provided if this is statistically significant - how many complaints does this represent in terms of the total number of stop and searches? how many stop and searches resulted in a prosecution and has this increased over the period?
i agree that terrorism powers are misused, this is, in part because they were badly written by a government driven by the gutter press and a police force which is heading the same way.
wrt the issue of police facilitating protest - the kettling didn't happen at the earlier protests in the same week and doesn't seem to be that common a tactic. certainly the media had built up the protests in the city on Wednesday to make many anticipate violence. i don't think the approach taken was necessarily correct, rather, it was a very difficult call to make for the police. interestingly, the level of violence and destruction in london was significantly lower than at similar events in other countries over the past few years - i wonder whether this is down to UK policing techniques or the people at the protests?
Re: correctedsaturdays_boyApril 10 2009, 20:35:57 UTC
I think it is safe to say that the low level of violence reflects the British mentality. If you look historically you'll find that at nearly all points in time when Europe is in the throws of political unrest and revoloution , the British were a bit ticked off and had a collective stamping of feet. It's not for no reason that we still have a monarch and the french are on their third(?) republic.
i would have expected the Met to record the highest proportion of discriminatory behavior or breaches of the code on stop and search as they are the biggest force in the country. whilst the data on Code A Pace breaches shows an increase, I cant determine with the information provided if this is statistically significant - how many complaints does this represent in terms of the total number of stop and searches? how many stop and searches resulted in a prosecution and has this increased over the period?
i agree that terrorism powers are misused, this is, in part because they were badly written by a government driven by the gutter press and a police force which is heading the same way.
wrt the issue of police facilitating protest - the kettling didn't happen at the earlier protests in the same week and doesn't seem to be that common a tactic. certainly the media had built up the protests in the city on Wednesday to make many anticipate violence. i don't think the approach taken was necessarily correct, rather, it was a very difficult call to make for the police. interestingly, the level of violence and destruction in london was significantly lower than at similar events in other countries over the past few years - i wonder whether this is down to UK policing techniques or the people at the protests?
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