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Episode 01: Flushed Away to a Strange World

Mar 10, 2008 07:13

Episode 01: Flushed Away to a Strange World

If you need to watch the episode, check out this post (community locked) for information!

...and away we go!

( Summary with Screencaps! Neither dial-up safe nor snark-free! )

monday, episodes 1 - 10, user; lenainverse, week 1, season one

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bodyline March 10 2008, 19:15:33 UTC

Günter von Kleist, you never cease to amaze me. *A* Have my chillems ( ... )

lenainverse March 10 2008, 19:22:34 UTC

Wow, I've never heard the dub before. I'm a definite sub snob so it never even occurs to me to try it out. Now I'm curious! Although you're right that once you get used to a certain voice it's hard to change. ^_^ I heard the dub version of "Shibuya Yuuri Harajuku Furi" is pretty lame though...is it really a play on "urine"? >_<

GAH, why is my capslock making me post before I'm ready?? I was going to say that it's a cools tory that you got into it like that, and YES IT'S A GOOD THING YOU STAYED WITH IT CAUSE YAY!!!

*looks forward to reading your post* ^_^

bodyline March 10 2008, 19:29:11 UTC

I'm not a dub fan, but I'm not a sub fan, either. I take everything on a case-to-case basis because some dubs are good, some dubs are bad, and the same goes for subs. KKM is on of the few cases where I can't stand the Japanese cast at all (though I endure it for the OVAs and the third season, if only because there's no definite answer as to whether it'll be dubbed at all.) The dub version of Shibuya Yuuri Harajuku Furi is a play on urine, yes, but as lame as that is? I think it's perfectly understandable why they did that. Not many people are going to watch the series and offhandedly know the reference and get why it's amusing. I had to look up information on the pun to get it. Your casual anime watcher isn't likely to do that, and it's hard to translate such a blatant cultural reference in a way that will make sense to Western fans who aren't familiar with Japanese culture. So while it's annoying, and one of the aspects of the dub that I do ignore, I don't complain about it because they were perfectly right in doing it ( ... )

neocloud9 March 10 2008, 20:16:44 UTC

Well, even though the pun was a bit lame, ya gotta admit that translating puns from Japanese to English is a rather problematic task. Personally, I adore the English dub every bit as much as the Japanese. >w< Both seem to capture the spazzy, dramatic, adventurous attitude of the series so well. <3

bodyline March 10 2008, 20:21:51 UTC

Exactly. The languages are too different, for one thing, and you have to take into consideration the fact that so many puns in the Japanese version of an anime is usually a cultural reference that'll only make sense to a Japanese audience or to someone well versed in the culture. Which not many people are. So, logically speaking, it makes sense to change the pun to something that will make sense to the audience you are catering towards. It's not meant to be disrespectful or anything, it's just trying to convey something to an audience that the material is not intended for.

And, really, is Harajuku Furi all that much better? The beautiful thing about KKM is that it's comedy is all pretty lame, and it's supposed to be that way, and that's what makes it enjoyable. It's not trying to be a brilliant piece of work, it's supposed to be silly, zany fun, with a somewhat darker, deeper overtone for those who care to search for it.

neocloud9 March 10 2008, 20:28:08 UTC

I still don't really get why the "Harajuku Furi" thing is funny. I understand what it means, but... *shrugs* Doesn't Yuuri use that as an alias in another episode later on?

bodyline March 10 2008, 20:30:04 UTC

I don't get why it's funny either. >8|
I can at least get why the pun on urine would be amusing, it's being used by teenage boys, for God's sake. Of course it's going to be unintelligent and tasteless. Harajuku Furi isn't funny, it's ironic.

lenainverse March 10 2008, 21:38:58 UTC

Not only is it acceptable, but maybe we should make it MANDATORY!!! MWAHAHA~!

*ahem* Okay, better now. XD

I get what you're saying about the jokes made for the dub, it definitely makes sense. It's also the reason I never watch dubs - I LIKE all the nerdy Japanese humor, but I'm weird like that. ^_^ But yes, they did the best they could with a difficult situation in terms of the jokes. How did they handle the fiance/flower bulb thing??

bodyline March 10 2008, 21:41:34 UTC

Flower bulb?

lenainverse March 10 2008, 21:44:42 UTC

Ack, that's episode 2! I broke my own spoiler rule, but it's a small thing anyway. :P Spoilers for Episode 2, then!!! --> In episode 2, when Cheri announces that the proposal is accepted Yuuri sees these onion looking things and mistakes her word for flower blub or onion or plant or something like that when she really means engagement or whatever. It's right there in the animation, so they must have addressed it, yes??

bodyline March 10 2008, 21:46:54 UTC

OH THAT PART! Okay, um, in the dub he just says, "Are we talking about gardening?" So, uh, they more or less left it? And I was like, "wtf is this."

LOL I SHOULD PROBABLY GET AROUND TO WATCHING IT WITH SUBS OR DUBBED LIKE NOW. Since I just finished watching the RAW in a failed attempt to screencap it, so. XD

lenainverse March 10 2008, 21:50:50 UTC

"Are we talking about gardening?"
...I'd say that's really FTL, but in KKM NOTHING surprises me. Maybe the audience looked at it like part of the crack?? But yeah, the word for "plant bulb" and "fiance" are definitely really close in Japanese. XD

Failed attempt? Oh noes! T_T

neocloud9 March 10 2008, 22:58:22 UTC

No no no. She says "love is in bloom"! Which totally makes sense in both contexts.

lenainverse March 10 2008, 23:25:14 UTC

Does she? Oh, well then that makes perfect sense! In the sub she says "proposal accepted!" which makes sense with the rhyming joke. XD Clearly I have no idea what goes on in the dub...@_@

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bodyline March 10 2008, 19:38:44 UTC

If a dub is available, I'll usually watch it dubbed regardless of quality. It has a lot to do with my eyes; I have a very hard time reading subtitles. I can't do it for too long or my eyes start to burn like hellsfire. So I prefer to watch dubbed series dubbed unless a dub isn't available and so I get used to the voices and have a hard time adjusting to hearing it in the opposite language (oddly enough, I rarely have that problem adjusting from Japanese to English. Like, I saw Rozen Maiden, Death Note, and Code Geass in Japanese first but I'm fine with the dubs, too. I actually love the Rozen Maiden dub a lot!) It's only if a dub isn't available or is just THAT BAD that I'll watch it all subbed ( ... )

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