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Oct 22, 2004 00:16

Somewhere in the 14th century, there were these people called Arabs. And then there was a guy named Copernicus. They were all doing essentially same thing - looking at stars, planets, and figuring out how everything in the world revolves around the Earth. They both came to the same conclusion - something doesn't figure right in this, the planets ( Read more... )

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"Alright, Lucy. You promise you're not gonna pull the football away this time?" figgy_pup October 22 2004, 08:34:26 UTC
I'd think it's hard to say he's completely against it when he's the first president to put federal funds into it. And while he has put limitations on it, I think (though I wouldn't bet my life, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong) the limitations aren't in the forms of laws against it, but only in the amount of federal funding and the amount of federally controlled frozen embryo lines that the government is putting into it (i.e. private companies can go to town with research, but they’re only going to get so much free supplies and materials from the federal government). Seemed like a reasonable compromise to me, the government using what it has already gathered, but not gathering any more until the ethics of the situation are further explored and debated ( ... )

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Re: "Alright, Lucy. You promise you're not gonna pull the football away this time?" kiskameow October 22 2004, 16:39:07 UTC
First of all, who the hell is Lucy ( ... )

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Re: "Alright, Lucy. You promise you're not gonna pull the football away this time?" figgy_pup October 22 2004, 18:09:26 UTC
Lucy is a character from Charlie Brown. She would hold a football for Charlie Brown and he would run up to it and try to kick it with all his might. However, Lucy would always pull the ball away at the last second, leaving Charlie Brown to trip, kick himself into the air, or perform some other such bout of clumsiness. It was just an attempt to be funny, being that my comment theme was about the stem cell issue being a political football ( ... )

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Re: "Alright, Lucy. You promise you're not gonna pull the football away this time?" figgy_pup October 22 2004, 18:18:08 UTC
I would like to withdraw my "Since no one (scientists included) have any idea if any real cures will come out of stem cell research" statment from the first comment though. What's in the quotes is probably an overstatement. It would be more accurate to say that the hype about all the diseases people claim will be cured is just that, hype at this point, and speculation. Some of it is speculation based on research and data, and some of it is not.

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Re: "Alright, Lucy. You promise you're not gonna pull the football away this time?" kiskameow October 22 2004, 16:45:12 UTC
Oh yeah, here's another bit of info for you on how Bush promotes stem cells research. Fifty eight senators asked him in a letter just before Reagan died to stop limiting research. They showed that it's not 78 lines that are now usable, but only 19. And of those 19, most are contaminated, so their use is uncertain. They pleaded with him to allow research. Bush did not comment on the issue, but his spokeswoman did. With this, "The president remains committed to exploring the promise of stem cell research but at the same time continues to believe strongly that we should not cross a fundamental moral line by funding or encouraging the destruction of human embryos"

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